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For those of you who have never lived in a communist or post-communist state, this tactic may seem unheard of. In fact, this is a textbook case of how the totalitarian government communicated (and in some cases, still does) with the people. Repeat a lie until you're blue in the face in order to establish it as the new normality. Weave in just about enough truth to seed some doubt. Reap the benefits.

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

This is not just problematic. It's horrifying. And for some of us, it's what we left behind to come to the US.

D.o.S. wrote:If you don't think our modern day class system is rooted in the racial divide that defined the first hundred years of the country (and obviously this phenomenon. isn't defined just to the US) I have some Pantera-branded camo shorts to sell you.

Simply asserting that someone's superficiality shouldn't influence how they exist in the world does not mean that it is so. The television tropes are decidedly beside the point and are basically meandering around the morass that is middle brow entertainment programming.

hbombgraphics wrote:And if we are still feeling the impacts of a time when race in our country was a class system, how do you move past it?

rustywire wrote:

D.o.S. wrote:If you don't think our modern day class system is rooted in the racial divide that defined the first hundred years of the country (and obviously this phenomenon. isn't defined just to the US) I have some Pantera-branded camo shorts to sell you.

Simply asserting that someone's superficiality shouldn't influence how they exist in the world does not mean that it is so. The television tropes are decidedly beside the point and are basically meandering around the morass that is middle brow entertainment programming.

ROFL you opened the tv trope can of worms and I seasoned them for you like "dig in!"

You don't get to control the world? Do tell me more!
But seriously, you've moved the goalposts a bit. Race isn't a class system. Not in 2017 USA.
A class system can surely have an origin in racial-bias with emphasis on property; limiting who can own [it] as class barriers...
...but incrementally evolve to minimize legal discrimination on the books, as the state grows to treat citizens equally, not property.

Yes, discrimination will continue to exist and manifest in the individuals who make up the bureaucracy. Presently, amorphous bureaucracies even on the local level are also made up of diverse individuals. Go to your social security office, borough hall, police/fire station, dpw, post office, dmv [sorry], and take a look around. I know you live in one of the whitest states but cmon it cant be that different from the tristate area.

Obviously where you're born and live are instrumental. Exceptions apply. Inb4 the That's so DoS variety.

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I grew up around other kids of all shades, on the wrong side of the tracks in an affluent small town/huburb of NYC with immigration and foreign students every year since kindergarten. The well-manicured hands live in the hills, the dirty nailed hands in the valley. Exceptions, obv. Not racial. Broken homes all over. We were all together at public school. The most privileged (or misbehaved) went away to private school.
Anyway, in my fam I'm 2nd and 3rd gen American. My various ancestors came to NYC in the early 20th, broke. Hard workers. Some refugees. The discrimination and conditions they initially endured were brutal, yet considerably better than hiding under a bed because the young turks are out. Working on the subway and life as a street vendor not so bad by comparison. Gradually situation improved and property was bought. MADE IT!
100 years ago opportunity existed for them, despite individuals with bias opposing their effort. This is a different world than that was, but opportunity still exists for individuals determined to create something great.