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Re: Prepare yourself for "alternative facts" the next 4 year

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:18 pm
by PeteeBee
Chuckchuck wrote:
hbombgraphics wrote:
tremolo3 wrote:That fucking sucks, never been out of the West Coast and never experience any sort of racism of any kind so far, except by some Hispanics in Mexican restaurants refusing to talk to me in Spanish lol.

I still live in a "GIANT CONFEDERATE FLAG ON MY TRUCK" area

I just don't get it.
wouldn't fly in l.a. no pun intended.
Yeah the flag boggles me. Day after the election someone around here flew a confederate flag and everyone FREAKED OUT. Like police around keeping people from forcibly tearing it down and news crew interviewing the owner, who did it apparently as protest art showing that we have now apparently entered the new dark ages or something.

People crack me up when they have a big ass flag in their den or truck or whatever then make a big, awkward point of saying it's not because they're racist. It's family heritage or whatever crap. I asked the dude whom this story centers around which southern state his family is from and he just says "Oh I'm from Ohio." :facepalm:

Same dude (whom I only met for 10 minutes while helping someone borrow chairs for a party) also asked if I can blow my nose (with my septum ring) and if it is hard to find a job (with my tattoos). :facepalm: :facepalm:

Re: Prepare yourself for "alternative facts" the next 4 year

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:28 pm
by Chankgeez
Don't be hatin' on racist dudes just because they lack life experiences.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNMcXRbvVmc[/youtube]

Re: Prepare yourself for "alternative facts" the next 4 year

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:23 am
by snipelfritz
jwar wrote:Yea Trumps a liar, just like every other goddamn politician that's ever existed. Do you know what the most annoying part is to me about all of this? People are acting like they like CNN and Fox again. I mean come on! Those guys are fucking idiots. Those two stations are the reason I decided to stop watching national news. I now am pretty much in the dark, except following this election process and I've been happier for it. Fuck em all. That's what I say.
I love you jwar, but this is the willful ignorance that is compliant with abuse of power.

Re: Prepare yourself for "alternative facts" the next 4 year

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:22 pm
by Jwar
snipelfritz wrote: I love you jwar, but this is the willful ignorance that is compliant with abuse of power.
I'm not trying to deny he's a liar. He is. My point is that all Presidents and politicians are liars and the media is a bunch of liars too. I'm glad that they are being drug (Heh) through the mud. Fuck them. All they care about is who is first to report something, not what's true. I mean, they reported the Martin Luther King Jr. bust was taken down in the White House when Trump came in. Pretty fucking petty lie, and you know those fuckers were doing it to just stir more shit up, like we don't have enough.

So am I compliant with the powers to be? Absolutely not, I'm just as upset about this Presidency as most people in the United States.

I don't believe any of these horses asses anyway because they all have their own agendas. Whatever that may be. We are constantly being lied to. It's ridiculous.

Bernie would have been a good President, Hillary probably would not have. Trump will most likely not be either. This is who we have right now though and there is not a damn thing I can do about it at this moment.

Lurker13 wrote:
jwar wrote: The issue is that T-rump spews crap that everybody knows is crap and that he knows everybody knows is crap because of the mountains of incontrovertible evidence that it's crap and that still doesn't stop him from sticking to his "alternative facts" crap. It's like he thinks he can Gaslight the whole nation. :rant:
Well I agree. I hate that he gets his facts from idiots like Alex Jones and Breibart (neo nazi fucks). I've listened to these insane ravings for years because my younger brother is obsessed with Jones, who I would like to kick in the cock.

I'm not sure why the whole "alternative fact" thing flies. I think his campaign manager was doing an ok job in that CNN interview until she started talking about alternative facts. Then she lost me and most likely everyone else.


Here's the deal. As a person, I cannot fight every battle because I just can't. I have personal battles going on currently that take president (LOL) over the other ones. Once those are done, I'm up for protesting when it makes sense (I have no issues with the recent one, that's not what I'm saying). I used to protest with my family against things when I was a child and until I was a young adult, so I'm not afraid of being on the front lines with like minded folks. I won't participate in anarchy (as much as I'd like to) or any forms of violence/vandalism. That however would change given the right situation (IE a civil war).

I have my beliefs, and I stand by them, but I respect others for what they believe as well. I will never say "you're a moron" for what you believe. I may pick fun at you because that's how I am anyway, but it's in jest and meant in love. ;)

All I want is for life to be good for all of us. It never will be though, at least not for all people. To me that is a sad, sad fact. It's part of why I believe in God. I use my prayers to ask for others to have help when they are in need or guidance or food in their bellies or an end to their suffering...etc. It helps me and I hope it helps them. I know, I went off a bit there and most will be like "God? What God. There is no God". I get it, I've been there and I totally respect how you feel and what you believe. I'd never impose my beliefs on anyone. I'd talk to them if they wanted to however, but I'm not a pushy guy.


So I'm not sure what my point is here because I lost my train of thought, but I love you guys and I don't want all this ugliness in the world. I wish it would end, but it won't. It will get worse before it gets better. I just hope there's some good he can do. Who knows? He may make a 100 horrible mistakes in a row and make 1 good decision his whole Presidency. I don't know yet. I'm just keeping my spirits up for now. He is my President, and like President Obama (who I voted against twice), I will respect his position. I don't have to like the things he does though and if he gets impeached....please just don't put his VP in that spot...That's the real monster we have to worry about.

I'll stop talking now. Love you guys.

Re: Prepare yourself for "alternative facts" the next 4 year

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:43 pm
by Strange Tales
For people in states with a big chance of getting DeVos denied:

Vote delayed! Copy and paste, please.
WE NEED 3 SENATORS TO CHANGE THEIR VOTES TO PREVENT DeVos FROM BEING CONFIRMED
The vote to confirm Betsy DeVos as Sec of Education was delayed. The hearing of the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions will now be held at 10 a.m. Jan. 31, according to an advisory from the committee.
And now to act (esp my ME, GA, NC and SC friends)! Betsy DeVos is up for confirmation as U.S. Education Secretary, and many, many educators have expressed strongly that she is not qualified to ensure quality education in this country.
Please consider calling one of the following Republican Senators (key in the confirmation vote) to express your opinion on the appointment. At least 3 of these need to be convinced in order to block DeVos' nomination. Don't email. Don't tweet. Don't complain on Facebook. Call them!
Then, PLEASE SHARE WIDELY:
If you live in one of the states represented below, PLEASE call YOUR Senator, If you don't, pick one and call him/her:
Susan Collins (ME) 207.622.8414..&..202.224.2523
Lamar Alexander (TN) 615.736.5129..&..202.224.4944
Lisa Murkowski (AK) 907.586.7277..&..202.224.6665
Johnny Isakson (GA) 770.661.0999..&..202.224.3643
Orrin Hatch (UT) 801.524.4380..&..202.224.5251
Richard Burr (NC) 336.631.5125..&..202.224.3154..&.. 910.251.1058..&..828.350.2437
Michael Enzi (WY) 202.224.3424
Dr. Bill Cassidy (LA) 202.224.5824
Pat Roberts (KS) 202.224.4774
Tim Scott (SC) 202.224.6121
Rand Paul (KY) 202.224.4343

Re: Prepare yourself for "alternative facts" the next 4 year

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:55 pm
by D.o.S.
Fuck Susan Collins.

Re: Prepare yourself for "alternative facts" the next 4 year

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:23 pm
by Jwar
D.o.S. wrote:Fuck Susan Collins.

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Prepare yourself for "alternative facts" the next 4 year

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:51 pm
by Chankgeez
:love: that "state of the jwar address". :)*

As much as I love Bernie Sanders, I'm not so sure he would've been an effective POTUS. :idk:

Also, about the MLKjr. bust thing: part of the problem is that the dissemination of "news" is now almost instantaneous. Any error, which in the past, may've been caught prior to publication doesn't stand much of a chance of being corrected like that these days.


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Re: Prepare yourself for "alternative facts" the next 4 year

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:34 pm
by snipelfritz
jwar wrote:I'm not trying to deny he's a liar. He is. My point is that all Presidents and politicians are liars and the media is a bunch of liars too. I'm glad that they are being drug (Heh) through the mud. Fuck them. All they care about is who is first to report something, not what's true. I mean, they reported the Martin Luther King Jr. bust was taken down in the White House when Trump came in. Pretty fucking petty lie, and you know those fuckers were doing it to just stir more shit up, like we don't have enough.

So am I compliant with the powers to be? Absolutely not, I'm just as upset about this Presidency as most people in the United States.

I don't believe any of these horses asses anyway because they all have their own agendas. Whatever that may be. We are constantly being lied to. It's ridiculous.
Fo' shpoozle (I mean "for sure). I just think the press serves (or at least should serve) a very important purpose. They are certainly not perfect (the way information moves instantaneously causes lots of problems), but the best way to combat that is with literacy and education of the issues and the multiple sides, and understanding and respecting that facts are facts are facts.

I'm definitely not expecting (or telling) anyone to go protest or fight or anything (I haven't done that myself). I'm just asking we not throw out the free press baby with the sensationalist news bathwater.

All that said, this whole "Alternative facts" thing has really been getting under my skin. Climate change is real, voter fraud is entirely made up, and if you say otherwise, you're either evil or a moron. There is no kumbaya "understanding" coming from me anymore on these issues. :grumpy: That's no longer the territory of difference of opinion, that's shitting in my mouth and calling it a sundae.

When people say voter fraud is an issue:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vewVmRRe1fI[/youtube]

Re: Prepare yourself for "alternative facts" the next 4 year

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:44 pm
by lost in music
ok, I hate the shit out of Fantano but that's great.

Re: Prepare yourself for "alternative facts" the next 4 year

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:26 pm
by Invisible Man
https://youtu.be/gneBUA39mnI

Hadouken. Hadouken to your face.

Re: Prepare yourself for "alternative facts" the next 4 year

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:28 pm
by D.o.S.
Shut it down boys, we found Waldo.

Re: Prepare yourself for "alternative facts" the next 4 year

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:01 pm
by snipelfritz
You think I won't fling three eggs at you?

Re: Prepare yourself for "alternative facts" the next 4 year

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:59 pm
by Chankgeez
It'd be pretty funny if Trump tried to get Mexico to pay for the wall, they refuse, U.S. cuts aid and then Russia steps up aid to Mexico.

:idk:

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Re: Prepare yourself for "alternative facts" the next 4 year

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:36 pm
by tremolo3
mmmm then I'll need to go back to ramonovski as my username, or maybe piotr3