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popvulture wrote:What were you doing in MS, Space? Recording in Oxford?

Im an automation engineer and there was a factory in Water Valley that needed to be updated for the 21st century. I had no idea why they would put a facility out in the middle of nowhere like that until i checked the job board and saw they were paying machine operators $8.00 an hour.

popvulture wrote:Btw I hate Ole Miss with a passion. Those Kappa Data Rapa fucktards were one of the things I despised most about growing up in the state. Despite the fact that I've heard lots of cool things about Oxford and have lots of great friends who've lived there, I've never been pretty much purely out of opposition to the university. May be a fine institution in some aspects, but it's filled with quite a lotta turds.

Man im so glad i didn't have to suffer much of football season there. Everytime there was a home game i had to stay over an hour away on the tennessee border just outside of memphis.

Ahhhh gotcha. And yes, the wage situation there can be astounding. Sigh.

I'm sure they'll come to their senses and elect state and national representatives who will advocate for their causes.

[youtube]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vn2Qq1u9sRk[/youtube]

I mean the video speaks to this, but generally most people generally don't want to be shitty to other people, actively or implicitly. The problem is couching it in rhetoric because, as a community, it's an ostracized set of behavior, which is how you wind up with the law in question, right?

I don't think people generally WANT to be shitty, but I think you'll find norms and culture are major players.
Laws aside, the psychology of the social network around an individual can be a very powerful factor.
And that's without taking into account ingroup/outgroup mentality and the feedback loops that happen in these situations.
I blame that sort of thing for the massive jump to the right we've seen in recent decades.
"The right".

Yea people feel way better about being shitty to someone through legislation, so they don't actually have to do the dirty work. It's especially poetic for those same people when the legislation doesn't go their way (weed is legal here). You can imagine who popular that is with the folks who are out bombing Planned Parenthood's around the state. You reap what you sow.

hbombgraphics wrote:....I just don't understand how denying someone services is ever right, or in the instance of the Pastor who created the bill "Christian".
It's super disappointing.

The funny thing to me is thinking about the one time Jesus got mad (sorry going biblical here) was due to the use of holy ground for commerce instead of worship. Something hypocritical. Also the bible says that "God hates divorce".

what does either of these have to do with queers? Not a damn thing.

If they think that "gayness" is immoral then guess what? Jesus dined and hung out with sinners, he didn't spend time wagging a finger of righteousness at them. He dined, shared, and loved them.

People that support this sh*t are at best hypocritical. Having read the new testament my personal conclusion is that the bible is suppose to challenge your prejudices, not provide comfort for them.

echoraven wrote:

hbombgraphics wrote:....I just don't understand how denying someone services is ever right, or in the instance of the Pastor who created the bill "Christian".
It's super disappointing.

The funny thing to me is thinking about the one time Jesus got mad (sorry going biblical here) was due to the use of holy ground for commerce instead of worship. Something hypocritical. It is also said that "God hates divorce".

what does either of these have to do with queers? Not a damn thing.

If they think that "gayness" is immoral then guess what? Jesus dined and hung out with sinners, he didn't spend time wagging a finger of righteousness at them. He dined, shared, and loved them.

People that support this sh*t are at best hypocritical. Having read the new testament my personal conclusion is that the bible is suppose to challenge your prejudices, not provide comfort for them.

Oh of course—I think if you ever try to measure these people's actions against Jesus' example, they'd fail on most accounts.

There's so much literalism and blatant rejection of reason and education in exchange for blind belief that none of it makes any sense if you try to examine it from a rational standpoint. The hypocrisy is unbearable.

Don't get me started on the conservative fundamentalist standpoint with respect to foreign policy and criticism of other religions. My favorite quote I saw on Monday after this bill was signed came from a friend: "The people most afraid of living under Sharia are always the ones most interested in their own version of it."

Do we need to start a "help me move out of my shithole home state" fund that board members can donate to?

HighDeaf1080p wrote:Do we need to start a "help me move out of my shithole home state" fund that board members can donate to?

Ha, I no longer live there. Nope, I live in good ol' Texas, home of all kinds of other complete fuckwits!

To be fair though, I live in the lovely communist hamlet of Austin. The plan is to move to Chicago this summer—I'm looking forward to living in a more liberal state, even if it is one with a rich history of political corruption

popvulture wrote:....Oh of course—I think if you ever try to measure these people's actions against Jesus' example, they'd fail on most accounts...

Not just example, but biblical text. Almost as if they said "Jesus would do this, let's do the opposite".

If I were a baker who was deeply offended by homosexuality and believed it to be sin the bible instructs me to do my job with pride; which in this case would be bake them a cake so good that they cream themselves. Tell them "god bless you" in the most loving way possible and donate the proceeds to a worthy charity. (in discussions with people I've actually accompanied the relevant bible verses, but hopefully you guys will take my word).

If the law were anything but a "permission to be a super dick" law, it would require the businesses that plan to discriminate to post a sign clarifying what ignorant sh*ts they are. I would want to know before giving some business my hard earned money.

...bunch of ignorant and inbred a**holes.

...sorry for the rant and harsh language.

echoraven wrote:

popvulture wrote:....Oh of course—I think if you ever try to measure these people's actions against Jesus' example, they'd fail on most accounts...

Not just example, but biblical text. Almost as if they said "Jesus would do this, let's do the opposite".

If I were a baker who was deeply offended by homosexuality and believed it to be sin the bible instructs me to do my job with pride; which in this case would be bake them a cake so good that they cream themselves. Tell them "god bless you" in the most loving way possible and donate the proceeds to a worthy charity. (in discussions with people I've actually accompanied the relevant bible verses, but hopefully you guys will take my word).

If the law were anything but a "permission to be a super dick" law, it would require the businesses that plan to discriminate to post a sign clarifying what ignorant sh*ts they are. I would want to know before giving some business my hard earned money.

...bunch of ignorant and inbred a**holes.

...sorry for the rant and harsh language.

This makes sense,

Loving your enemies is basic bible, but not in the south I guess.

Sadly you have to assume someone living a different lifestyle then you is an enemy to apply the verse at all.


Of all the people Jesus fed healed and helped I don't see one example of him making sure they were straight first.

popvulture wrote:I think what we're really talking about here is gay pasta.

Never 4get Barilla!

gnomethrone wrote:REJECT GARMENTS WOVEN OF MORE THAN ONE MATERIAL!
SHUN THE MASTERBATORS!
LET US NOT BE TEMPTED TO CONSUME SHELLFISH!
OUST THE DIVORCED!

Kinda got on this tangent in the POTUS/scrotus thread, but i always wonder about the fucking cherry picking people do with the Bible. Like, we're not stoning women who defy their husbands, or selling daughters as objects, but we're really gonna hang up on man lying with another man?

I have a lot of issues with Christianity (two millenia of imperialism, the complete dominion of western thought, one ought to), but this shit is so ludicrous. Let's ignore that the current cultural conception of homosexuality is a Victorian invention, and just look at the book that tghese people claim to be worshipping. Where does it say "people with different sexual desires shall be forbidden from buying our pizza" Exactly? And what about the several hundred odd insane rules people don't follow anymore. Hell this is the book whose Mark of Cain and Mark of Ham was used to justify chattel slavery. Fuck. I am not even coherent but also not sorry.



Out of curiosity, how many people here are gay?