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Re: Fuzz deafness?

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:51 am
by jrmy
Seeing as how Decibill and I spent about three-plus hours yesterday setting up our live boards at the practice space (his basement), I definitely feel your pain. I had about six dirt pedals, but really only four levels of dirt/fuzz/OD that I wanted to cover. I think I spent at least an hour and a half comparing the middle two spots (I knew the Talons was taking my basic almost-always-on grit, and the Musket was covering the Muff-y end). In the end, my DannDubs Ezekiel clone claimed the fat & rumbly fuzz, and my Mini got the trashy-raspy-contrast fuzz.

Another thing that gets painful in these comparisons is pedal order and circuit interaction. There are some circuits that just magically don't play well with others - alone, they're great. Put them next to the wrong circuit-mate and suddenly they both sound like crap. It's infuriating.

At one point after deciding what pedals went where, I changed my entire dirt section order up, only to realize that I had it right the first time, and had to rewire the whole thing again. :facepalm:

And then there's the whole issue of context with other folks (if you're playing with other folks). I had some lingering doubts about my setup... until we started band practice proper and I got to hear the pedals working exactly the way I'd hoped. Had to tweak some settings on the fly, because of course I hit the strings harder when actually playing with someone else...

Re: Fuzz deafness?

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:11 am
by D.o.S.
And That's why I only use one-or-two pedals when I'm making sounds live.

Re: Fuzz deafness?

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:42 am
by jrmy
D.o.S. wrote:And That's why I only use one-or-two pedals when I'm making sounds live.
Yeah, but man, when I got that lineup figured out... it was like :love: :love: :love: ... even if getting there was :mad: :mad: :mad:

Re: Fuzz deafness?

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:16 pm
by spacelordmother
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Re: Fuzz deafness?

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:31 pm
by retinal orbita
I have 7 fuzz pedals on constant rotation - going between home stuff and a band context I'm NEVER happy with "the way it is" and my wife has remarked she hears the sound of velcro more than any other sound in our house - but every time it's never quite perfect. The White Light is probably the most used and pretty much has a set spot in the chain, and I love my v4 Muff but it's so big and makes it difficult to keep other things on the board.

Some are just not cool for a band context - my brassmaster clone for example. I dunno. Fuck it. I need a bigger board. But I'm determined to keep it to as few as possible these days due to not owning a car and bringing my board everywhere so I DON'T need a bigger board. I might start leaving more pedals at my space to rotate through and test out with other things.

If I found a muff clone in a small enclosure (maybe a Pharoah or a Musket) that I could keep on my board that would be awesome so I could swap out others easier that would be excellent.

Re: Fuzz deafness?

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:46 pm
by jrmy
What are you looking for in a Muff? I dig the Musket a lot for its versatility (and while I know it's not necessarily modeled on a specific version, it reminds me of my old Green Russian, but with better tone controls... and y'know, mids) but each builder has their proponents...

Re: Fuzz deafness?

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:47 pm
by D.o.S.
SuperCollider and Grey 'Stashe are my faves.

Re: Fuzz deafness?

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:14 pm
by neonblack
The two muffs i really wanna dive into are the Grey Stache and the Musket.

Has anyone played with a Huge Box? Is it muff based? or muff-esque?

Re: Fuzz deafness?

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:20 pm
by neonblack
In other news, I took everything off my board last night except for my Second Voice, Mini, TAFM, and tuner. I went to this open jam thing but the bass player with the amp got all butthurt when I walked in with my ss jag and pedalboard and left with the amp. So i didn't get to play. But anyways, it was interesting just playing today with the slimmed down board. The TAFM is good, and its staying, but I need some more variation. Especially with the pretty noticeable volume boost with the gate on, I may just have to pick one -gated or not- and stick with it.

Re: Fuzz deafness?

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:27 pm
by sears
so it's like shopping for perfume for your lady love, eh? You don't have the nose for more than a few

Re: Fuzz deafness?

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:09 pm
by Mudfuzz
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Re: Fuzz deafness?

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:23 pm
by retinal orbita
jrmy wrote:What are you looking for in a Muff?
I'd like the tone bypass of the V4, plus the endless sustain. It's the only muff I've ever loved :animal: so I'm open to variants.....

Re: Fuzz deafness?

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:10 am
by colossus
neonblack wrote:The lesson here is that unless youre playing to a room of ILFers, you only need one fuzz.
A very sad truth. :facepalm:

Does anyone else feel just a little bit sad when they read an interview with some awesome guitarist with awesome, lustworthy, ear-splitting, chest-crushing tone, only to find out it's not coming from a crazy boutique pedalboard (like the kind I've put all this money into), but some shitty, beat-to-death Arion that was bought at a pawn shop for $15?

Re: Fuzz deafness?

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:29 am
by retinal orbita
That just makes me want to sell some pedals

I'm limiting to like 6-8 max including tuner. Anything else is just too much of a pain.....

Re: Fuzz deafness?

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:10 am
by MaggotBrainNY
Chankgeez wrote:
It may just be ear fatigue.

Listen again when you've given your ears a chance to rest. The fuzz may sound totally different.
:thumb:

I became very aware of ear fatigue when I started recording and mixing records. After a while it becomes impossible to make informed decisions based on what is coming out of the speakers.