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Re: Dopesmoker...

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:17 pm
by Wes Mantooth
I'd definitely participate!

I'm going to throw it on my new turntable right now

:ilw:

Re: Dopesmoker...

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:53 am
by kbit
D.o.S. wrote:
kbithecrowing wrote:
D.o.S. wrote:Y'all don't do CDs?


I think you're the only other person on ILF I've seen who still does CDs regularly :lol:


When you listen to jams over 22 minutes, you gotta do CD or you're compromising sound quality.

That I can totally hear, because I haven't been playing very loudly for years. I swear.


Yeah I've heard about this but never tested the theory myself. Although I've had a few times where an LP just sounded flat out bad in comparison to the CD version. & breaking up a long piece like this would be a shame anyways.

Re: Dopesmoker...

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:41 am
by Wes Mantooth
kbithecrowing wrote:
D.o.S. wrote:
kbithecrowing wrote:
D.o.S. wrote:Y'all don't do CDs?


I think you're the only other person on ILF I've seen who still does CDs regularly :lol:


When you listen to jams over 22 minutes, you gotta do CD or you're compromising sound quality.

That I can totally hear, because I haven't been playing very loudly for years. I swear.


Yeah I've heard about this but never tested the theory myself. Although I've had a few times where an LP just sounded flat out bad in comparison to the CD version. & breaking up a long piece like this would be a shame anyways.


I'm guessing it was probably all in how it was mixed and mastered. If they just took a digital album and put it on vinyl, it'll most likely not sound its best.

I prefer the sound of vinyl above everything else, but everyone has different preferences. Also I don't mind changing sides because it keeps me from zoning out from the music, keeps me engaged. If I didn't have this problem I'd probably go with CD

Re: Dopesmoker...

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:12 am
by D.o.S.
It has to do with the width of the groove required for the song (which has a lot to do with mastering). You try to fit too much music on one side, you're not going to have enough space for the proper amount of low end.

Re: Dopesmoker...

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:01 pm
by Joe Gress
Heh, I listened to my Dopesmoker CD so many times in my truck that I had to buy an new copy.

Re: Dopesmoker...

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:03 pm
by Wes Mantooth
D.o.S. wrote:It has to do with the width of the groove required for the song (which has a lot to do with mastering). You try to fit too much music on one side, you're not going to have enough space for the proper amount of low end.


Ah, ok. That totally makes sense!

I can say the vinyl version of Dopesmoker that I own is pretty great. Never listened on CD though...

Re: Dopesmoker...

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:22 pm
by new05002
I have both the Billy Anderson and Reissue mixes on vinyl and CD. There is pros and cons for any 4 of those. I normally listen to the CD formats (or i guess 320 kbps MP3 on my Iphone).

Re: Dopesmoker...

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:54 pm
by Butch1970
Yup....I dumped the most recently released CD onto my iPod and did some yardwork while groovin'. Also was a good choice for the gym.....just about covered the whole workout :rock:

If they spread the album out across two LP's it would definitely sound better, but would probably mess up the continuity of it.

I've got Dopethrone on both CD and vinyl but never compared them side by side to see if I had a preference (though I'm more of a vinyl guy). That's on two LP's.

Re: Dopesmoker...

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:12 pm
by horseblanket
I even liked it when it was Jerusalem. go figure.

Re: Dopesmoker...

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:31 pm
by aen
After our show last Saturday the soundguy put on Dopesmoker. Made load - out a little easier. Unfortunately the room has a resonance around that low C... so the subs kind of started eating up the whole room.

Re: Dopesmoker...

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:29 pm
by D.o.S.
Butch1970 wrote:Yup....I dumped the most recently released CD onto my iPod and did some yardwork while groovin'. Also was a good choice for the gym.....just about covered the whole workout :rock:

If they spread the album out across two LP's it would definitely sound better, but would probably mess up the continuity of it.

I've got Dopethrone on both CD and vinyl but never compared them side by side to see if I had a preference (though I'm more of a vinyl guy). That's on two LP's.


I don't know about the Southern Lord vinyl, but the Tee Pee version is four sided.

Re: Dopesmoker...

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:56 am
by Wes Mantooth
D.o.S. wrote:
Butch1970 wrote:Yup....I dumped the most recently released CD onto my iPod and did some yardwork while groovin'. Also was a good choice for the gym.....just about covered the whole workout :rock:

If they spread the album out across two LP's it would definitely sound better, but would probably mess up the continuity of it.

I've got Dopethrone on both CD and vinyl but never compared them side by side to see if I had a preference (though I'm more of a vinyl guy). That's on two LP's.


I don't know about the Southern Lord vinyl, but the Tee Pee version is four sided.


The Southern Lord vinyl release of it is three-sided. Sides A,B, and C are Dopesmoker and Side D has two live recordings. At least that's on my edition that I recently obtained a few months ago.

Re: Dopesmoker...

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:15 am
by D.o.S.
Right. I'd have to check, but I think side D is just Sonic Titan.

Re: Dopesmoker...

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:32 pm
by pelliott
Side D is live recordings of Holy Mountain and Sonic Titan on my Southern Lord reissue.

Re: Dopesmoker...

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:58 am
by benjuro
I rock the mp3/CD versions mostly b/c I'm old and rather spend my money on new gear than a turntable and expensive vinyls (although them shits do sound good.)
Went back and spun it after this thread started, and am still super excited by the movements and dynamics in it. It begs for mondo volume and rewards you justly.
I have several fellow dopesmokers in the Massachusetts area to enlist when it is time for our simultaneous broadcast...

The SLEEPers will Awaken!!!