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I wonder if they changed the hardware at all between the Tonal Recall and Thermae? It could just be new firmware and paint (not that a new product isn't justified). I'd like to see inside one of them, someday.

What's funny is that Joel may have just released his best and most fun pedal, yet external expectations are obscuring this. The Thermae makes me think of a Supa Puss on mescaline. It's not the first delay to handle radical shifts or arpeggiating rhythms, but I do feel like the dipswitches and the CB format will allow for a lot more nuance over the dynamics. UC mentioned the Limbo (2014 launch), but the MF-104M and the Supa Puss both came out in 2012. I imagine there were rack delays 10+ years earlier that could do similar effects. (didn't the Timebender in 2009 have arp-like capabilities?) Today if you've got an EHX 8-Step, you can also produce similar textures with a Tonal Recall, EHX DMM 1100-TT, the OBNE delays, some of the TC delays, and more.

Those bright, cascading leaps can certainly be had from other pedals, but between the filter, glide, and rear controls, you should be able to expand upon previous experiences. I heard vibrato and dying tape emulation in that demo, so I don't think you can discount it as a Swiss Army modulation box either. That video barely tugged on the curtain. This is an ambitious offering that's been getting fine-tuned for years, but its gestalt can't be realized without a deeper dive.

I'm fuckin hyped for Thermae. CBA stuff has been the most inspiring pedals I've purchased in the last year, even moreso than the Meris ones which are right up there. I've been waiting for another crazy design and this satisfies my curiosity.

While this is cool, it is pricey and I can't get excited without a real demo by a more boring demoer. Or manual, or inevitably being wowed by one in a store

echorec wrote:What's funny is that Joel may have just released his best and most fun pedal, yet external expectations are obscuring this. The Thermae makes me think of a Supa Puss on mescaline. It's not the first delay to handle radical shifts or arpeggiating rhythms, but I do feel like the dipswitches and the CB format will allow for a lot more nuance over the dynamics. UC mentioned the Limbo (2014 launch), but the MF-104M and the Supa Puss both came out in 2012. I imagine there were rack delays 10+ years earlier that could do similar effects. (didn't the Timebender in 2009 have arp-like capabilities?) Today if you've got an EHX 8-Step, you can also produce similar textures with a Tonal Recall, EHX DMM 1100-TT, the OBNE delays, some of the TC delays, and more.

Those bright, cascading leaps can certainly be had from other pedals, but between the filter, glide, and rear controls, you should be able to expand upon previous experiences. I heard vibrato and dying tape emulation in that demo, so I don't think you can discount it as a Swiss Army modulation box either. That video barely tugged on the curtain. This is an ambitious offering that's been getting fine-tuned for years, but its gestalt can't be realized without a deeper dive.

Nailed it.
This prototype was just finished before the trip, we were discovering it as we went along. All the sounds in the demo were actually recorded in the bath house within about 45 minutes. As the trip went along we started to find different things it could do and different ways to use it.

askashrub wrote:Nailed it.
This prototype was just finished before the trip, we were discovering it as we went along. All the sounds in the demo were actually recorded in the bath house within about 45 minutes. As the trip went along we started to find different things it could do and different ways to use it.

That CB is for sure the Pitchfactor killer I've been waiting for

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Also, I'm not saying the price isn't justified. I own a RKM Tonal Recall and it's by far my favourite delay. But I probably would never have gotten one had it not been in a trade. Also, I'm still totally interested in the Thermae despite the price, I just doubt I'll have that kind of money available any time soon.

Sounds beautiful, but damn do CB pedals make me feel like a fucking poor loser who can't buy ANYTHING

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Strange Tales wrote:Hopefully this means (used) prices on the Ct5 will finally drop.

I think you mean 80tape In Limbo*, as it sounds exactly like it and seem to overlap in functionality (step/arp/normal analog delay w/modulation)

Oh wait...those are only $220.

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well to be fair (and as an owner of an in limbo) you get 3+ more seconds of delay time with the thermae and MN3005 chips instead of V3205s...that alone is gonna explain a chunk of the pricing disparity. plus you'll get a lot more parameter and expression control on this. i'll probably wait to pick one up used, but i think it looks and sounds pretty impressive in it's own right. i think it sits nicely in the market between the in limbo and the mf-104m.

Are the chips in the Thermae 80s Panasonic MN3005 or the reissue MN3005 made by xvive? Aside from the different voltage there shouldn't be a huge pricing difference between them. Certainly not to justify double the price on chips alone. The Chase Bliss pedals are more expensive because they are. Its not a reasoning thing.

whoismarykelly wrote:Are the chips in the Thermae 80s Panasonic MN3005 or the reissue MN3005 made by xvive? Aside from the different voltage there shouldn't be a huge pricing difference between them. Certainly not to justify double the price on chips alone. The Chase Bliss pedals are more expensive because they are. Its not a reasoning thing.

the V3205 is a clone of the MN3205, not the 3005, so i'd think they clip sooner...anyway you can get them for like 1/4 of the price of xvive MN3005s (which are in the TRs and thermae)

I still haven't seen Rolling Thunder, Sharky. I have seen Godard's Weekend and Makavejev's Sweet Movie, though, so I can't be judged as a total neophyte.