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Re: Let's see your AMP!

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:41 am
by D.o.S.
... decrease gain...

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Re: Let's see your AMP!

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:10 pm
by new05002
Some ppl like it clean. What can I say

Re: Let's see your AMP!

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:41 am
by dazedbyday
AngryGoldfish wrote:
Forrrest wrote:subject for another thread but: is Eardrum distortion a thing? or just one of my make-em ups?

I don't think your eardrum distorts. I remember reading about the ear and how it hears sounds, but if I remember rightly, the structure of it just doesn't allow for distortion. I could be wrong there so correct me if I am, but distortion is the cut-off of the peak; the compression. How would an ear do this? The volume level that can permanently damage (roughly 120db and beyond) doesn't eventually distort, at least from what I can tell.

Achtane wrote:Yeah, it really does feel like yr ears are distorting.
Maybe I'm uncool or whatever, but it really bothers me when shit is so loud that it messes my hearing up, even if it's "temporary". I gotta start wearing earplugs or something.

You should always wear ear plugs at shows. The human ear isn't designed to accept that kind of volume level. If you don't care about it then that's totally cool, I understand. I personally want to be able to buy a record at 60 and still hear the nuances of it without a hearing aid.

nightterrors wrote:sort of off topic but, I really want to try a 70's Orange Superbass... or even the reissue from the 90's, never seen either for sale before.

I didn't even know that amp ever existed. To be honest, though, it doesn't surprise me. Orange have released a lot of amps over the years, most of which are just reissues or slight variations on old designs.


I think you are right, from the little I have learned about the ear. The ear doesn't distort but actually starts to wear out and fatigue. So the longer you expose it to high level sound, the less detail it can make out before it eventually gives up or breaks. And when your ear drum gives out that sucks major ass. Thats why there is a recommend listening level or around 80 to 85 dBs. This gives you a decent level of listening while not being too fatiguing on the ears. At high level dBs there are ridiculously low listening times like 5 minutes, before you ear starts to loose detail. It is kinda a shitty trade off for shows because you want that energy of the higher sound levels, especially when the sound hits you in the chest, but the main purpose of the show, the sound, starts to be lost as your ears can't actually stand the big energy.

Re: Let's see your AMP!

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:57 am
by Grrface
dazedbyday wrote:
AngryGoldfish wrote:
Forrrest wrote:subject for another thread but: is Eardrum distortion a thing? or just one of my make-em ups?

I don't think your eardrum distorts. I remember reading about the ear and how it hears sounds, but if I remember rightly, the structure of it just doesn't allow for distortion. I could be wrong there so correct me if I am, but distortion is the cut-off of the peak; the compression. How would an ear do this? The volume level that can permanently damage (roughly 120db and beyond) doesn't eventually distort, at least from what I can tell.

Achtane wrote:Yeah, it really does feel like yr ears are distorting.
Maybe I'm uncool or whatever, but it really bothers me when shit is so loud that it messes my hearing up, even if it's "temporary". I gotta start wearing earplugs or something.

You should always wear ear plugs at shows. The human ear isn't designed to accept that kind of volume level. If you don't care about it then that's totally cool, I understand. I personally want to be able to buy a record at 60 and still hear the nuances of it without a hearing aid.

nightterrors wrote:sort of off topic but, I really want to try a 70's Orange Superbass... or even the reissue from the 90's, never seen either for sale before.

I didn't even know that amp ever existed. To be honest, though, it doesn't surprise me. Orange have released a lot of amps over the years, most of which are just reissues or slight variations on old designs.


I think you are right, from the little I have learned about the ear. The ear doesn't distort but actually starts to wear out and fatigue. So the longer you expose it to high level sound, the less detail it can make out before it eventually gives up or breaks. And when your ear drum gives out that sucks major ass. Thats why there is a recommend listening level or around 80 to 85 dBs. This gives you a decent level of listening while not being too fatiguing on the ears. At high level dBs there are ridiculously low listening times like 5 minutes, before you ear starts to loose detail. It is kinda a shitty trade off for shows because you want that energy of the higher sound levels, especially when the sound hits you in the chest, but the main purpose of the show, the sound, starts to be lost as your ears can't actually stand the big energy.


Going to an audiologist and getting custom molded attenuators was the best thing I've ever done for my ears, I think. It cost me about $150 to get a pair for these in the 15db reductions, and it's worth its weight in gold. I can still hear someone whisper in my ear, but it pulls out the pain of going to shows.

http://www.westone.com/defendear/index. ... Itemid=115

Re: Let's see your AMP!

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:00 pm
by dazedbyday
Yeah, don't want to detract from the amps for too much longer, but those types of ear plugs are great. I haven't gotten around to getting a pair for myself yet but I definitely need to. Right now I am using alpine ones with changeable dB level plugs. They were 40 bucks or so and work pretty well but a little definition is lost.

Re: Let's see your AMP!

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:05 pm
by grege
Grrface wrote:
Going to an audiologist and getting custom molded attenuators was the best thing I've ever done for my ears, I think. It cost me about $150 to get a pair for these in the 15db reductions, and it's worth its weight in gold. I can still hear someone whisper in my ear, but it pulls out the pain of going to shows.

http://www.westone.com/defendear/index. ... Itemid=115


+1

Getting molded ear plug attenuators has also been one of the best things I've ever done as well. Enjoying shows, and being able to handle loud rehearsals (drums/SVT/Fender Twin/AC-30) has been worth every penny.

Re: Let's see your AMP!

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:43 pm
by univalve
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Re: Let's see your AMP!

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:14 pm
by phantasmagorovich
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Re: Let's see your AMP!

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:52 pm
by AngryGoldfish
univalve wrote:BAM!
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.... Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd I'm pregnant.

dazedbyday wrote:I think you are right, from the little I have learned about the ear. The ear doesn't distort but actually starts to wear out and fatigue. So the longer you expose it to high level sound, the less detail it can make out before it eventually gives up or breaks. And when your ear drum gives out that sucks major ass. Thats why there is a recommend listening level or around 80 to 85 dBs. This gives you a decent level of listening while not being too fatiguing on the ears. At high level dBs there are ridiculously low listening times like 5 minutes, before you ear starts to loose detail. It is kinda a shitty trade off for shows because you want that energy of the higher sound levels, especially when the sound hits you in the chest, but the main purpose of the show, the sound, starts to be lost as your ears can't actually stand the big energy.

You need to FEEL the sound, even at Folk and Indie gigs, but I still want the clarity, so I try to remember to wear earplugs.

Re: Let's see your AMP!

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:14 am
by tuffteef
univalve wrote:BAM!
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bravo my boy
so proud :joy:

Re: Let's see your AMP!

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:59 am
by univalve
Thanks guys! EL84 goodness and i Love it!

Re: Let's see your AMP!

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:18 am
by Gutmann
And it matches the guitar perfectly. Nice!

Re: Let's see your AMP!

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:15 pm
by sonidero
ERRRMMAAGGGEERRRDDD TOO MUCH PURPLE MONKEY BONERZZZ!!!

Re: Let's see your AMP!

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:22 pm
by sonidero
I use this lil Crate CR-112 "Head" I took out of a combo for a headphone and pedal amp late at night... I got the combo real cheap and eventually the speaker ripped and I replaced it with a Rockford Fosgate car 12" that I found in the street and that was ok but the Spring Verb was always too short... When I took the head out I saw the grommets were fucked so I looked around and found some ol sink washers I never used... They're kinda tight but when I plugged it all back in it seems the Verb time has doubled and the Springs have Sprung back to Life... I guess it's just the rubber support but it really bought this bitch back to life... Sounds SICK with pedals and headphones plus I can always put it back in a 1x12" combo... YAY $25 AMPS...

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Re: Let's see your AMP!

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:39 am
by t-rey
univalve wrote:BAM!
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