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Re: OMG, I fuckin' hate politics!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:56 pm
by Mudfuzz
snipelfritz wrote:Obama third term? What are you people talking about? Did you hit your head?
hbombgraphics wrote:The Two party system has failed and our Country is too divided to realize it.
I feel like this is intentional, that both party has made it impossible for anyone supporting them to find middle ground.
I also think that these two candidates are a reflection of the people, which is just fucking sad.
So it's all the parties' design that these candidates are so unpopular and they are both struggling to keep their respective bases together?
I'm sick of stupid conspiracy theories, ideas of design, the word "truth" and basically anything else that tries to create some grand illusion of control. Nothing is controlled. Nothing is to blame. No one has any idea or care what they're doing to the big picture. Every politician, every member of "the media", every activist, every voter is just some shlup who wakes up and reacts to today's new stimuli in the name of self preservation.
Yes but then we have to accept that we are all lemmings and find that cliff and swim off into the sea.
Re: OMG, I fuckin' hate politics!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:03 pm
by friendship
Mudfuzz wrote:snipelfritz wrote:Obama third term? What are you people talking about? Did you hit your head?
hbombgraphics wrote:The Two party system has failed and our Country is too divided to realize it.
I feel like this is intentional, that both party has made it impossible for anyone supporting them to find middle ground.
I also think that these two candidates are a reflection of the people, which is just fucking sad.
So it's all the parties' design that these candidates are so unpopular and they are both struggling to keep their respective bases together?
I'm sick of stupid conspiracy theories, ideas of design, the word "truth" and basically anything else that tries to create some grand illusion of control. Nothing is controlled. Nothing is to blame. No one has any idea or care what they're doing to the big picture. Every politician, every member of "the media", every activist, every voter is just some shlup who wakes up and reacts to today's new stimuli in the name of self preservation.
Yes but then we have to accept that we are all lemmings and find that cliff and swim off into the sea.
I'm ready
Re: OMG, I fuckin' hate politics!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:13 pm
by decomposing
hbombgraphics wrote:The Two party system has failed and our Country is too divided to realize it.
I feel like this is intentional, that both party has made it impossible for anyone supporting them to find middle ground.
I also think that these two candidates are a reflection of the people, which is just fucking sad.
YUP
I'm so over this and can feel it radiate from people when I'm out in public.
I'M SO DONE WITH THIS SHIT.

Re: OMG, I fuckin' hate politics!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:28 pm
by snipelfritz
Mudfuzz wrote:snipelfritz wrote:Obama third term? What are you people talking about? Did you hit your head?
hbombgraphics wrote:The Two party system has failed and our Country is too divided to realize it.
I feel like this is intentional, that both party has made it impossible for anyone supporting them to find middle ground.
I also think that these two candidates are a reflection of the people, which is just fucking sad.
So it's all the parties' design that these candidates are so unpopular and they are both struggling to keep their respective bases together?
I'm sick of stupid conspiracy theories, ideas of design, the word "truth" and basically anything else that tries to create some grand illusion of control. Nothing is controlled. Nothing is to blame. No one has any idea or care what they're doing to the big picture. Every politician, every member of "the media", every activist, every voter is just some shlup who wakes up and reacts to today's new stimuli in the name of self preservation.
Yes but then we have to accept that we are all lemmings and find that cliff and swim off into the sea.
No, we have to accept there is no cliff.
Re: OMG, I fuckin' hate politics!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:47 pm
by hbombgraphics
It's not hard to look around and see the extreme polarizing positions of each candidate, they aren't running for moderates, they are gobbling up extremists, it forces everyone into an us or them mentality. Powerful people have always divided the less powerful in order to maintain power, this isn't new and it's not a conspiracy, it's history.
Re: OMG, I fuckin' hate politics!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:02 pm
by decomposing
hbombgraphics wrote:It's not hard to look around and see the extreme polarizing positions of each candidate, they aren't running for moderates, they are gobbling up extremists, it forces everyone into an us or them mentality. Powerful people have always divided the less powerful in order to maintain power, this isn't new and it's not a conspiracy, it's history.
I really wish there was something to be done. Short of dosing everyone with magic mushrooms, I'm not sure.
I'm most likely voting for Jill Stein because she's rallied the most of Bernie's loyals if not more, there's Dave Johnson I think too but don't know much about him yet.
It's just a shitshow in the worst way. and we have to wade through it.
I was watching The Blues Brothers last night to take my mind off things.
and a scene that used to be so funny it was ridiculous, may actually have some truth now which is sad.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-xZH07kVn0[/youtube]
the police are now militarized...
Re: OMG, I fuckin' hate politics!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:34 pm
by Chankgeez
hbombgraphics wrote:It's not hard to look around and see the extreme polarizing positions of each candidate, they aren't running for moderates, they are gobbling up extremists, it forces everyone into an us or them mentality. Powerful people have always divided the less powerful in order to maintain power, this isn't new and it's not a conspiracy, it's history.
I think the internet makes politics even worse than it was before.

Re: OMG, I fuckin' hate politics!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:36 pm
by hbombgraphics
Chankgeez wrote:hbombgraphics wrote:It's not hard to look around and see the extreme polarizing positions of each candidate, they aren't running for moderates, they are gobbling up extremists, it forces everyone into an us or them mentality. Powerful people have always divided the less powerful in order to maintain power, this isn't new and it's not a conspiracy, it's history.
I think the internet makes politics even worse than it was before.

well .... good thing I never use the internet
I feel like the internet is way better at dividing people than uniting them at this point.
Re: OMG, I fuckin' hate politics!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:42 pm
by Chankgeez
True.
(I can't wait until the full integration of the Internet of Fuzz. Then we'll truly be united.)
Re: OMG, I fuckin' hate politics!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:46 pm
by hbombgraphics
Chankgeez wrote:True.
(I can't wait until the full integration of the Internet of Fuzz. Then we'll truly be united.)
every thing is better with fuzz.
We should run the candidates through some pedals
Re: OMG, I fuckin' hate politics!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:35 pm
by Jwar
Chankgeez wrote:hbombgraphics wrote:It's not hard to look around and see the extreme polarizing positions of each candidate, they aren't running for moderates, they are gobbling up extremists, it forces everyone into an us or them mentality. Powerful people have always divided the less powerful in order to maintain power, this isn't new and it's not a conspiracy, it's history.
I think the internet makes politics even worse than it was before.

That's the fucking truth! Facebook in particular. It's everywhere on there and they even brought up Facebook like 15 fucking times in the last Presidential debate. Are you fucking kidding me?? Social media is out of hand man. We need to destroy it and go back to AOL chatrooms like the good old days. Remember when you could fight left and right with people in chat rooms and they had no idea you were trolling them because trolling didn't really exist but you have always been one? hahaha...
Re: OMG, I fuckin' hate politics!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:46 pm
by JonnyAngle
jwar wrote:Chankgeez wrote:hbombgraphics wrote:It's not hard to look around and see the extreme polarizing positions of each candidate, they aren't running for moderates, they are gobbling up extremists, it forces everyone into an us or them mentality. Powerful people have always divided the less powerful in order to maintain power, this isn't new and it's not a conspiracy, it's history.
I think the internet makes politics even worse than it was before.

That's the fucking truth! Facebook in particular. It's everywhere on there and they even brought up Facebook like 15 fucking times in the last Presidential debate. Are you fucking kidding me?? Social media is out of hand man. We need to destroy it and go back to AOL chatrooms like the good old days. Remember when you could fight left and right with people in chat rooms and they had no idea you were trolling them because trolling didn't really exist but you have always been one? hahaha...
asl, and do you want to cyber?
Re: OMG, I fuckin' hate politics!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:56 pm
by Jwar
Of course.

Re: OMG, I fuckin' hate politics!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:58 pm
by Seance
hbombgraphics wrote:It's not hard to look around and see the extreme polarizing positions of each candidate, they aren't running for moderates, they are gobbling up extremists, it forces everyone into an us or them mentality. Powerful people have always divided the less powerful in order to maintain power, this isn't new and it's not a conspiracy, it's history.
I totally disagree with this assessment. Hillary Clinton is a moderate. So is Barack Obama.
The 'extreme' of the Democratic party is full of Progressives who feel like the system should
work equally well for all citizens. That's hardly a polarizing position to "maintain power".
It's the Republican party that has become 'extremist' in order to disenfranchise the working
poor who they appeal to. Death Tax? Lower the capital gains tax? Unless you are super wealthy
these aren't your 'real' issues, these are 'aspirational issues'. Like the "Joe the Plumber" BS.
Re: OMG, I fuckin' hate politics!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:04 pm
by Chankgeez
^Schooled by a Canadian?
