The "How many different PLL clones can we get!" Thread

[onelouderash]

Fuck yourself, asshole.
That Guy is legit in my Book.
Cause i already got a Pedal from him

Speaking of which - are those fuzzes still happening? I remember them being discussed at some point (with some sweet-ass graphics), but can't find any posts about them or how one would go about ordering them...

[univalve]

Fuck yourself, asshole.
That Guy is legit in my Book.
Cause i already got a Pedal from him

Speaking of which - are those fuzzes still happening? I remember them being discussed at some point (with some sweet-ass graphics), but can't find any posts about them or how one would go about ordering them...

Yeah, fuzzes are happening. Drop him a mail and you will get one.
It is a fuzz face that is a bit more aggressive. I really like it. Will record with it soon and compare with my Black Acid.
Build quality is awesome. And i love the optics.

[zetamkiii]

Fuck yourself, asshole.
That Guy is legit in my Book.
Cause i already got a Pedal from him

I have a Sonic Crayon Vessels End yet I have no delusions that it somehow means I am entitled to an Anti-Nautilus
should he decide to make it. I also own quite a few Spaceman pedals yet that doesn't affect whether or not he will go through
with a second run of Rumblefuzz and Spacerockets. The point being your words of endorsement offer very little assurance that this project
(skunkworks blackbird, which many consider to be vaporware at this point) will fulfill all it's promises and be completed within a reasonable time frame.

I believe at this point (over 2 years later), It's not beyond reason to begin considering a plan B to acquire an original Schumman Pll
for the purpose of tracing a readily available schematic in case the likely scenario that the skunkworks blackbird falls through (It may just be
my skeptical nature but I suspect there's just not enough time and manpower to build one for everyone).

Take a closer look:

I'll have a small batch up for sale sometime in august, still undergoing circuit tweaks as well as a few additions to the cosmetics.

Despite the impression of the many knobs and taped up rats nest of the original, (when cleaned up, skunkworks) the circuit actually doesn't look all that complex. I've seen much worse. Anything can be improved and even Spaceman cuts costs. I don't see how anyone other than a fanboy could be so opposed to other people building the circuit and creating an availability of this pedal? It's such a self defeating purpose. You do realize that the more people building this pedal the more it's price is reduced and it's supply is increased, which can only improve the chances you have of actually acquiring one. And please, let's try to keep this civilized.

[tuffteef]

feel free to build one for us then

[zetamkiii]

feel free to build one for us then

You just don't get it do you? You can't ask someone to build you this. This is a mans masterpiece.
If you had been paying attention you would have noticed an emerging new kind of pedal.
Through the duck tape, booby traps and chaos you would have glimpsed the true nature behind John Schumann's original design.
This is the very pedal that caused him to give up building after completing only a few units.
Years ago, I remember hearing a customer sent his Pll back for repair and after 3 months of waiting received an unusual email.
I am not lying when I tell you this. It was revealed that Schumann, who had never kept a Pll for himself, had over the
years forgotten the design and fell in love with the customers pedal, attempting to run off with it.

This is not the mark of a regular builder. You see, I've encountered few pedals like this.
Each pedal is a meticulous labor of love. It's eccentric genius cannot be held to the same standard as a regular boutique.
It is the pinnacle of unobtainium. A boutique boutique where the builder has poured his very soul into what he is creating to
the point it transcends itself and becomes art. This is the shit legends are made of.

You do not understand what's happening. To simply have someone else build you one is an insult to this mans art.
If you don't appreciate it enough build your own interpretation then you do not understand what is it, you cannot comprehend what you
are playing and you don't deserve it.

[Chankgeez]

feel free to build one for us then

You just don't get it do you? You can't ask someone to build you this. This is a mans masterpiece.
If you had been paying attention you would have noticed an emerging new kind of pedal.
Through duck tape, booby traps and chaos you would have glimpsed the true nature behind John Schumann's original design.
This is the very pedal that caused him to give up building after completing only a few units.
Years ago, I remember hearing a customer sent a Pll back for repair and after 3 months received an unusual email.
I am not lying when I tell you this. It was revealed that Schumann, who had never kept a Pll for himself, had over the
years forgotten the design and fell in love with the customers pedal, attempting to run off with it.

This is not the mark of a regular builder. You see, I've encountered few pedals like this.
Each pedal is a meticulous labor of love. It's eccentric genius cannot be held to the same standard as a regular boutique.
It is the pinnacle of unobtainium. A boutique boutique where the builder has poured his very soul into what he is creating to
the point it transcends itself and becomes art. This is the shit legends are made of.

You do not understand what's happening. To simply have someone else build you one is an insult to this mans art.
If you don't appreciate it enough build your own interpretation then you do not understand what is it, you cannot comprehend what you
are playing and you don't deserve it.

Wow, that response is both patronizing and beautiful all at the same time.

The way you describe it, sounds like a fairy tale.

Pure magic.

[tuffteef]

feel free to build one for us then

You just don't get it do you? You can't ask someone to build you this. This is a mans masterpiece.
If you had been paying attention you would have noticed an emerging new kind of pedal.
Through the duck tape, booby traps and chaos you would have glimpsed the true nature behind John Schumann's original design.
This is the very pedal that caused him to give up building after completing only a few units.
Years ago, I remember hearing a customer sent his Pll back for repair and after 3 months of waiting received an unusual email.
I am not lying when I tell you this. It was revealed that Schumann, who had never kept a Pll for himself, had over the
years forgotten the design and fell in love with the customers pedal, attempting to run off with it.

This is not the mark of a regular builder. You see, I've encountered few pedals like this.
Each pedal is a meticulous labor of love. It's eccentric genius cannot be held to the same standard as a regular boutique.
It is the pinnacle of unobtainium. A boutique boutique where the builder has poured his very soul into what he is creating to
the point it transcends itself and becomes art. This is the shit legends are made of.

You do not understand what's happening. To simply have someone else build you one is an insult to this mans art.
If you don't appreciate it enough build your own interpretation then you do not understand what is it, you cannot comprehend what you
are playing and you don't deserve it.

you are delirious from PLL
all new level around here
you might aswel suck his dick while your at it

[tuffteef]

no wait i have to say it
you are so retarded

you act like schumann invented the bloody PLL
PLL is used for so many applications including Audio conversion and Radio Tracking

people have been using PLL for synthesis for ages before he came along
his PLL is literally just a PLL..
no secrets no tricks
literally a PLL

[futuresailors]

Gimme:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hEf25g2ry8[/youtube]

[12XU2A3X3]

It's not litterally just a pll.


In reading interviews with him it sounds like the tracking was as important as the sound generation with regard to the useage of a pll circuit in its most findimental or "literal" sense.

[tuffteef]

It's not litterally just a pll.


In reading interviews with him it sounds like the tracking was as important as the sound generation with regard to the useage of a pll circuit in its most findimental or "literal" sense.

PLL with the multiplier and dividers placed in
the idea of the VCO using the input signal to generate what it thinks is a similar voltage and just locks when its being compared to the original

if you look at the names of the controls on the schumann it all makes sense as to whats controlling what and reading data sheets as to make it work all those wild like pitch wobbles is cause you unlock the loop tracking
and it just goes nuts

its cool dont get me wrong but like when i say its a pll it is

[tuffteef]

im just saying while its cool you cant like give it some kind of visionary status ya know
its like dba and the total sonic

[D.o.S.]

Tuffteef wins the internets.

Schumann was an inventive builder who fell off the map because of an (alleged) drug problem, he wasn't a Messianic Soundcrafter from Beyond Ancient Space.

[12XU2A3X3]

ah, but was it LITERALLY just? your point is well taken friend.

[theavondon]

I mean, at the end of the day, it's a fucking pedal.