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Dapper Bandit wrote:Ugh, the Elite II is probably my one real caveat in the whole Jazz/Precision fight. They're so ugly they're sexy. Shoulda bought one when 80's Fenders were regarded as poorly made crap before they became the new vintage and were subject to historic revisionism like 70's Fenders.

I dunno - I can't say I ever thought it much different from a regular P bass while watching it being played. I mean, I know it's different, but it sounds like all my favorite post-rock/punk bass formulas from my youth, active PUps or not. And fuck me if I found out while recording that his heavy sound is a fucking MT-2. So I guess him and Ballou are unapologetic about the fanboyism...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmdVYpkjaPo[/youtube]

Sonaboy wrote:

Dapper Bandit wrote: The neck pickup solo'd is essentially the same sound and they look waaaay cooler.

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DIS RIGHT HEAR.

I know plenty of guys who can make Ps total thunder, but my fingers must be full of buttercreme, because I've never been able to make a P sound better than a Jazz.

Almost every passive Jazz [my main bass for near 20 years before I made my V had active J pickups ] I've played and owned left wanting. for me it's always

If you can find one, a Peavey Fury (or a Patriot, for that matter) will usually set you back less than $250, & is also lean & mean like a snack machine

Those look nice!

What's the story with the Fender Dimension basses?

Mudfuzz wrote: Almost every passive Jazz [my main bass for near 20 years before I made my V had active J pickups ] I've played and owned left wanting.

Odd, I've liked every jazz bass I've ever come across but then that's the beauty of differing tastes! I like Ps well enough, but a jazz gets me where I want to be. But then I really like Stingrays as well.

The Dimension was by all accounts a really good bass but they weren't something Fender made in the 50s and 60s so they sold poorly. I think they might be going really cheap now so could be worth a look.

Word, there's a Deluxe locally for under $500, which seems like a pretty great deal since it retailed for over $1,000. I've never used active pickups but I like the way they sound.

I think you should get this:

https://reverb.com/item/17189796-vintag ... -w-gig-bag



It has the kinda headstock that Mudfuzz likes to try to stab people with.

Chank... It's beautiful...

Yes, but it's a little more expensive.

The guy from Mainliner had one of those in green and it was purty.

friendship wrote:Full disclosure, I also have a jazz bass, but it's fretless. It sounds good too. Both jazz and precision basses sound cool to me!

at the moment, all i have is a MIM fretless Jazz Bass which i bought because that's what i learned on in the Jazz Improvisation class at City College of San Francisco. i would like a P-Bass, but am also drawn to other types, specifically the Guilds like Phil Lesh and Jack Casady used to favor, a short-scale Fender like the one Debbie plays in MBV, and particularly a Epiphone Thunderbird like the Gibson Nick uses in Slowdive.

gonna need to see a pic of that jazzy, dubstyle

where is the line drawn on if it is a bass with a P pickup but its a P bass shape? it will sound the same... also, I've always wondered why no one but BC rich ever put a P pickup in the MM spot.. it's a great sound

friendship wrote: I've never used active pickups but I like the way they sound.

Active pickups can sound great. The problems are with dirt pedals, not all of them like active electronics so you have to balance that against what pedals you intend on using with it.. if it is a muff type you will be fine if it is a vintagey thing or a modern oscillating, sputtering, glitching messy thing you might not be happy... or maybe you might like what happens..

Mom bought me my first P-bass in 1997. I still have it and it still rules.

I just bought my second P-bass this morning. And it's fucking amazing.

The answer is, but of course, yes. Yes, you do get another P-bass.