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Re: OBO ? and how do you feel about these situations
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:13 am
by echorec
popvulture wrote:Personally, I'd ignore someone who made an offer three bucks less than what I posted, all the while having a very hard time not chewing them out over it. This isn't the fucking citywide garage sale, and your pedal isn't a cutout Donny Osmond record. People indeed get a kick out of "winning," but I refuse to indulge that kind of selfish, neurotic behavior, or any kind of weasely attempts for filet mignon on a burger budget, because it's usually not out of financial necessity. It's usually just rudeness.
Haha I got a little mad there... I guess people constantly trying to screw me over in my line of work has led me to especially loathe this kind of garbage.
Thank you for that, PV.

Re: OBO ? and how do you feel about these situations
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:00 pm
by popvulture
Anytime!

Re: OBO ? and how do you feel about these situations
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 6:22 am
by lost in music
I have 42 watchers on a single item. It's $100 off retail already, which is the lowest price anywhere on the Web. I thought perhaps it would sell at tax season. No sir. I've thought for a while that eventually it'd go out through Affirm, but nope. If people can't afford $40 a month, then why are they watching it? I've definitely been where you are many times. I don't even understand why people are into boutique gear, if they can't afford it. I wouldn't watch an eBay auction for a Lamborghini, so why are broke people watching my tape delay auctions? The whole vicarious internet window watcher thing is weird to me.
I'm about to start putting up mega trade lists on all my high-dollar items. If I can't sell something for $700, maybe I can acquire $710 worth of stuff in trade?

In the past, I've used "watch" instead of "wish list".
Edited to add: I stopped doing that after I started selling stuff more and started wondering about how many of my watchers were actually going to buy. I wouldn't be surprised if a ton of people operated this way though. Wish list is not an available button on the mobile app.
Re: OBO ? and how do you feel about these situations
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 7:39 am
by ck3
The Reverb mobile app always enables the offer option for new postings. I refuse to play the "make an offer Jedi mind trick game" on Reverb and have sold plenty of gear there for my asking price (after progressive reductions thereof at times). Still, there has been one knob who used messaging to make a lowball offer for a guitar in spite of the fact I clearly indicated in ways other than not enabling the offer option that offers were not accepted (tldr, I suppose). It can take more time to sell gear without playing reindeer games, but I prefer to avoid unnecessary stress when possible.
As for being $3 under asking price, that does seem a bit arbitrary and, perhaps, skeevy, though closer to asking price than most would likely offer. I've now had 4 buyers who paid asking price, reciprocated communication (for the most part), and then left no feedback in spite of additional outreach attempts. There really seems to be no accurate predictor regarding buyer feedback, and I refuse to automatically leave feedback for a buyer at the point of sale given I would loose one of my few points of leverage and/or recourse in the event of scamming.
Re: OBO ? and how do you feel about these situations
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:07 am
by lost in music
ck3 wrote:The Reverb mobile app always enables the offer option for new postings.
Yeah, there are a few other options that it doesn't have. If I start my listing via mobile, I always make sure to scramble to a desktop computer to make sure everything's straight.
Re: OBO ? and how do you feel about these situations
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:13 am
by spacelordmother
Usually when I get a shitty offer (be it a lowball or a $3 fuck you) I usually counter with more than my original asking price. That shows em....
Re: OBO ? and how do you feel about these situations
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:52 am
by popvulture
spacelordmother wrote:Usually when I get a shitty offer (be it a lowball or a $3 fuck you) I usually counter with more than my original asking price. That shows em....

Re: OBO ? and how do you feel about these situations
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:21 pm
by resincum
should have told that $3 less dude to fuck off. I only include offers on reverb to make the buyer feel better. I usually post $5 above the bare minimum im willing to accept and counter their lowballs with that. stuff will sit there for a while if it's not OBO
Re: OBO ? and how do you feel about these situations
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 3:16 pm
by sears
ck3 wrote:There really seems to be no accurate predictor regarding buyer feedback, and I refuse to automatically leave feedback for a buyer at the point of sale given I would loose one of my few points of leverage and/or recourse in the event of scamming.
Is there a way to use a handle for leaving feedback instead of your real name? I couldn't find it.
Re: OBO ? and how do you feel about these situations
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 5:50 pm
by ck3
sears wrote:ck3 wrote:There really seems to be no accurate predictor regarding buyer feedback, and I refuse to automatically leave feedback for a buyer at the point of sale given I would loose one of my few points of leverage and/or recourse in the event of scamming.
Is there a way to use a handle for leaving feedback instead of your real name? I couldn't find it.
I'm pretty sure your name will always appear with feedback.
Re: OBO ? and how do you feel about these situations
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:09 am
by lost in music
Get a loada this wheeler dealer trying to message me out of my money on a Reverb item for which "Make Me An Offer" was definitely not enabled and for which I'm offering one of the lowest prices on the internet. Reminded me of this thread.
Buyer: I am in {town an hour's drive away from me} - maybe we can meet half way and do cash?
Self: Sorry, I have a pretty overwhelming schedule. The only time I have for gear selling is running stuff to the post office.
Buyer: What's the best price you'll do then if I buy today?
Re: OBO ? and how do you feel about these situations
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:06 am
by lost in music
Wanted to add that's for a recently-released, almost new pedal that I'm selling for $125 - not like I was selling an amp and dude wanted to save me the cost and trouble of having to ship it or anything.
Re: OBO ? and how do you feel about these situations
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:40 am
by JonnyAngle
I"m a whore. I'd accept the -$3 offer.
I've had so many poeple "buy" things from me and then never respond to messages and never pay. I just cancel and relist
Re: OBO ? and how do you feel about these situations
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:35 pm
by repoman
I dunno, this is like complaining both ways, angry someone offered within 3 dollars of the price, angry when its an actual lowball. I don't really see an issue with 3 bucks under the asking price when there is a make an offer option listed.
For genuine low ballers I usually let the offer go to like 1 hour before expiring and then send an offer back like 5 bucks less than original asking price, I figure that might be kind of annoying.
Reverbs the only way for me to sell stuff now, I haven't sold anything on my craigslist in probably 3 years despite always listing stuff there. Pretty much every email I get from them is asking to trade some completely random item for something worth 5-10x as much.
Stuff that sucks about Reverb:
Conflict resolution is non-existent in my experience. Returned an item, seller said he got it but could not refund me because he couldn't figure out how to refund on reverb. Reverb customer support was literally "sorry, we can't do anything" even though the correspondence was all through Reverb messaging and they could read all of it. Also bought an item from a big store in Brooklyn on Reverb that turns out is notorious for bait and switch. They wouldn't communicate for over a week and a half after I had paid them and wouldn't ship it, contacted reverb who did nothing, store comes back with bait and switch offer, declined, finally got my money back after about 2.5 weeks.
Direct checkout should be renamed: you won't get your money for sold item for over a week checkout.
Fees are creeping up.
Incredibly stupid return policy option for buyers that can really screw the seller, thankfully I've never had anyone try any thing with that.
Re: OBO ? and how do you feel about these situations
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:21 pm
by waltdogg
i sell everything "as-is" and have a zero return policy on reverb, except on tubes. reverb's cust. service has never gotten on my case about this. as for getting lowball offers. i just laugh. it's hilarious to me when people are broke as shit or can't read.