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Re: Best attack/decay swell effect bang for the buck?
Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 4:11 pm
by woolyh
I had the Behringer which was a decent Boss SG-1 clone but I'd go with the Mooer just for the better footswitch
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Re: Best attack/decay swell effect bang for the buck?
Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 4:11 pm
by woolyh
goroth wrote:Chankgeez wrote:I have no idea what this does, but what about this?

Looks like an sho with a master volume.
Yeah it's channel 2 from the Super Duper 2 in 1 (aka SHO with master volume

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Re: Best attack/decay swell effect bang for the buck?
Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 4:17 pm
by jrmy
bigchiefbc wrote:Tristan wrote:
I actually forgot to mention the Electro Harmonix Micro Synth which is probably my favourite for swells because it doesn't need this silence / mute in between.
Oh yeah, that reminds me, the BMS has a kick-ass attack swell. Jrmz, if you want to try it out, you can borrow it anytime.
Thanks mang, but I've got an old big-box one (that's been modded for true bypass and for the LED to show activation instead of just power-on). It is awesome, but too big for my needs - I need the smallest, simplest volume swell-only kinda thing.
Re: Best attack/decay swell effect bang for the buck?
Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 9:31 pm
by aen
So... what's the advantage of having a button pedal that tries to emulate a volume pedal?
Re: Best attack/decay swell effect bang for the buck?
Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 9:39 pm
by 01010111
Every swell is identical to the previous
Depending on your point of view that could be a good or a bad thing, but I think for consistency I'd prefer to have a preset envelope control my volume.
Re: Best attack/decay swell effect bang for the buck?
Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 9:50 pm
by sonidero
aen wrote:So... what's the advantage of having a button pedal that tries to emulate a volume pedal?
Until I get a Moses DLX with EXP control I won't know...
The ones I've had were good for pick responsive vol. swells, not unlike a good optical compressor...

Re: Best attack/decay swell effect bang for the buck?
Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 10:07 pm
by futuresailors
sonidero wrote:aen wrote:So... what's the advantage of having a button pedal that tries to emulate a volume pedal?
Until I get a Moses DLX with EXP control I won't know...

Re: Best attack/decay swell effect bang for the buck?
Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 1:58 am
by jrmy
aen wrote:So... what's the advantage of having a button pedal that tries to emulate a volume pedal?
I am extremely uncoordinated, and don't trust myself with most wah/treadle interfaces. The end result is usually bad.
Re: Best attack/decay swell effect bang for the buck?
Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 3:35 am
by goroth
aen wrote:So... what's the advantage of having a button pedal that tries to emulate a volume pedal?
- response time faster than possible with a foot
- ability to use your foot to control other effects
- consistency of the swell
Last night I played a gig and used it quite often, and it gives you a lot of freedom. You can interact with the audience, move around, do stuff on stage, without being tethered to a pedal. In many cases I find I prefer envelope controlled effects to manually controlled effects.
Re: Best attack/decay swell effect bang for the buck?
Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 9:03 am
by frigid midget
The ones I owne(d):
DL4: Needs a compressor in front to really nail what I'm after, and I guess a big ass delay modeler doesn't really count here.
BYOC: sounded like a pretty accurate SG1 as far as I could tell. Finnicky to dial in, not super easy to use on long gradually swelling slow notes.
Pigtronix Attack/Sustain: Horrible at sustaining notes. As in, it totally didnt, at all. Notes would just cut out after a couple secs or so, which, for me, made the pedal just a huge pricey compressor with a ton of useless bells and whistles.
Re: Best attack/decay swell effect bang for the buck?
Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 2:21 pm
by bigchiefbc
jrmy wrote:bigchiefbc wrote:Tristan wrote:
I actually forgot to mention the Electro Harmonix Micro Synth which is probably my favourite for swells because it doesn't need this silence / mute in between.
Oh yeah, that reminds me, the BMS has a kick-ass attack swell. Jrmz, if you want to try it out, you can borrow it anytime.
Thanks mang, but I've got an old big-box one (that's been modded for true bypass and for the LED to show activation instead of just power-on). It is awesome, but too big for my needs - I need the smallest, simplest volume swell-only kinda thing.
Oh yeah, I forgot you had one, my bad. I wish I had more suggestions for you, the only pedz I have that do autoswell are the BMS and the Mobius
Re: Best attack/decay swell effect bang for the buck?
Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 2:45 pm
by Tristan
Hmm, yeah, I think most options have already been listed in this thread, size considered it probably boils down to these:
B.Y.O.C. Lazy Sprocket
Guyatone GV2
Malekko A.D.
Mooer Slow Engine
VFE Bumblebee
Re: Best attack/decay swell effect bang for the buck?
Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 3:42 pm
by frigid midget
No mension of the Line 6 Echo Park yet?
If it weren't so big and packed with features I don't really care for, I'd personally go with the EHX Pog2. Best souding swell effect I heard, as far as I can tell from the online demos.
Re: Best attack/decay swell effect bang for the buck?
Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 3:44 pm
by goroth
I was guessing the slow engine is an SG-1 clone, but the current draw on it is 128mA. Must be digital?
Re: Best attack/decay swell effect bang for the buck?
Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 4:26 pm
by penelope tree
Yeah, I think the Slow Engine is a digital simulation rather than a clone.