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Re: Creating new styles of music
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:31 pm
by Ugly Nora
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Re: Creating new styles of music
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:10 pm
by Greenfuz
what about metal style riffs played on classical guitar with medieval-esque vocals while still sounding clearly metal
songs must ONLY be about slaying dragons or other monsters
tights and tunic optional
Re: Creating new styles of music
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:18 pm
by MrNovember
Greenfuz wrote:tights and tunic mandatory
Fixed
Re: Creating new styles of music
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:20 pm
by MrNovember
Also I listen to Mr Heavenly all the time.
I dig them, just not the doom-wop I was expecting

Re: Creating new styles of music
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:35 pm
by D.o.S.
Greenfuz wrote:what about metal style riffs played on classical guitar with medieval-esque vocals while still sounding clearly metal
songs must ONLY be about slaying dragons or other monsters
tights and tunic optional
That sounds a lot like early Tenacious D.
Re: Creating new styles of music
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:39 pm
by Tristan
Greenfuz wrote:what about metal style riffs played on classical guitar with medieval-esque vocals while still sounding clearly metal
songs must ONLY be about slaying dragons or other monsters
tights and tunic optional
Dunno, I thought Ritchie Blackmore was doing that (complete with tights and tunic, the whole package if I'm correct):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY_qU0sGX1g
=> WARNING: Don't actually watch that, it might do irreversible damage and not of the good kind :WARNING <=
Re: Creating new styles of music
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:46 pm
by Ugly Nora
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Re: Creating new styles of music
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:22 pm
by Tristan
On a serious note, I think it also has to do with what kind of person / musician you are.
There seems to be people who like music because it's in a certain style and they basically mostly want to experience the same thing only a little bit different over and over again.
Then there's musicians who like that very same thing but instead of just being listeners they start to play the kind of music they're into, those could become genre specialists.
On the other hand there's listeners who get bored with something after a while and who start to look for something else, their taste grows in a more eclectic way.
The musicians who get bored doing the same thing every now and again and who start to seek out new things on a frequent basis are probably more likely to throw different stuff in the hat when they are making music.
Very simply put and an open door probably but I guess it contributes to the want to and capability of creating a new or less common style.
For me, I never really wanted to play in a certain style, I always did know how I didn't want it to sound though.
I always liked Rock and Jazz music but later on I started to also like Electronic Music, throw that all in the mix and that's basically the style that I play I guess.
There's probably something I like in lots of music styles, only I'm very specific on what I like and what I don't like.
Usually it's not the innovators of a style that hit me the most, it's actually the refinement or little crossovers afterwards that gives it that special quality for me that I seek out.
But I guess that could be another topic all together, refinement vs innovation and innovation through refinement and vice versa.
Re: Creating new styles of music
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:56 pm
by rfurtkamp
There's also the people who hate anything that's not obscure, and then the hipsters were born.
"Man, let's do the greatest hits of 1515 Stuttgart but only in a rap metal-style!"
"Yeah, fuck yea!"
Re: Creating new styles of music
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:50 pm
by D.o.S.
Also, making the music you want to hear.
Pretty good barometer.
Re: Creating new styles of music
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:18 am
by Mudfuzz
D.o.S. wrote:I can't vouch for it as long as the 80's it's definitely been a thing since at least the early 00's.
Really I can't either but peeps I jam and record with have been doing that stuff since the 60's so I have had to sit through the history of NW jug band/oldtime-y music since the early 00s

Re: Creating new styles of music
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:21 am
by Mudfuzz
K2000 wrote:Black Sabbath is a bad example, because there were tons of English bands playing heavy blues around that time. Sabbath is not a radical departure.
you are right except for Black Sabbath

Black Sabbath sets Black Sabbath apart for the rest of the heavy british blues bands, if it wasn't for Black Sabbath then Black Sabbath would never have been Black Sabbath

Re: Creating new styles of music
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:38 am
by D.o.S.
And also, there's a vast swath of difference between the heavy English blues of the 60's and Black Sabbath.
Re: Creating new styles of music
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:52 am
by K2000
D.o.S. wrote:And also, there's a vast swath of difference between the heavy English blues of the 60's and Black Sabbath.
I meant bands like Cream.
Re: Creating new styles of music
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:04 am
by D.o.S.
I know. And Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac. And The Groundhogs. And Ten Years After. And early Jethro Tull, and I suppose you could put Free in there, too.
etc, etc, et al.
Not to be a hater, but there is a massive difference between a band like Cream (who are on their own planet entirely, even within that scene) and a band like Black Sabbath.