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Play so hard and energetic that no one gives a fuck that you're a two piece.

PumpkinPieces wrote:Play so hard and energetic that no one gives a fuck that you're a two piece.

Casavettes wrote:Maybe someone said this in a better way
But I think it's just a matter of how you approach it.
If you're writing songs while thinking, this is where a bass or keyboard or skin flute should go, then you might be shooting yourself in the foot. Maybe you already know this and I'm sure you were more so asking from an equipment standpoint, but just my 2 cents

theavondon wrote:Just, lots of amps, and a hard hitting drummer.

If you do these three things you'll fill out the sound

Cannot emphasise the importance of the hard-hittinf, energetic drummer. Every time I listen to the dodos I'm always amazed by how much the drums fill out the sound

sylnau wrote:Listen to univalve's Analog Pattern Robots.
http://www.ilovefuzz.com/viewtopic.php? ... 09#p392819

Thanks Syl!
Two amps, signal splitter, looper:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdmmMqc4B0Q[/youtube]

When the bassguy is not available I play on a 2x15' cabinet.
That gives me enough low end for rocking hard! I don't think you really need a second amp.
But why not? Lots of amps are nice to see ;-)

PumpkinPieces wrote:Play so hard and energetic that no one gives a fuck that you're a two piece.

this is the plan!!
there's been a few times where stop and wonder if we're playing too hard,... then we shrug and keep rocking out

OddKnowledge wrote:

PumpkinPieces wrote:Play so hard and energetic that no one gives a fuck that you're a two piece.

this is the plan!!
there's been a few times where stop and wonder if we're playing too hard,... then we shrug and keep rocking out

The stereo rig is the way to go. Just put the amps on opposite sides of the drummer running out of a stereo pedal. Using one on a 2x15 cab EQ'd for bass would probably be optimal for low end.

Obviously you need a sevenstring.....

Get a baritone, at least 28.6" scale, but 30" is better, tune to A or lower, get a good ABY box to send the signal to a bass rig for teh brewtz, and a guitar rig for teh chimez, Micro Pog for the parts you play on the high strings/high up the neck. A looper could be really useful too.

higain617 wrote:The stereo rig is the way to go. Just put the amps on opposite sides of the drummer running out of a stereo pedal.

This has never worked for me, my drummer absolutely hates this arrangement and I don't like it too much either.

I play with a guy who runs two 212 combos as a stereo rig and it works pretty well. We have a bass player though.

higain617 wrote:I play with a guy who runs two 212 combos as a stereo rig and it works pretty well. We have a bass player though.

That's a different matter I'd say. My band is a duo, I loop a lot and the loops go to the bass amp only, everything I play over the loops goes to the guitar amp. If I separate the amps like you said the drummer complains he can't play in sync with the loop - I don't quite understand why, but that's what the man says. I hate to have either one of my amps on the other end of the stage for reasons I hope are obvious. If we had a bassist that would be a different kettle of fish.

Run through both a guitar amp and a bass amp. Avoid using the bridge pickup. Use a distortion that isn't too trebly or too bassy. Use reverb and echo to make your sound more full.

vidret wrote:

Chankgeez wrote:

osbornkt wrote:Use multiple cabs! I use a 1x10, 1x12 and 1x15, and it really fills out well. Strategic positioning helps, though (twss?)

Just to clarify, were you TWSSing "really fills out well" or "Strategic positioning" or both?

From here we can see that we can factor out the technical terms, so we start with this:

Use multiple cabs! I use a 1x10, 1x12 and 1x15, and it really fills out well. Strategic positioning helps, though

And then we look for the terms that twss applies to and factor them out, and we get

Use multiple cabs! I use a 1x10, 1x12 and 1x15 + {it really fills out well. Strategic positioning helps, though}TWSS

We then end up with our helpful comment

Use multiple cabs!

of the example suggestion

I use a 1x10, 1x12 and 1x15.

where example suggestion can be [helpful,worthless].
In this suggestion we can see that our 'helpful comment'----> is moving towards 'helpful'.

And we end up with the desired form of:

helpful_comment(example suggestion]+TWSS(a+b)

Going into a bass cab will make a difference, but the notes you play will still be within the scale/register of the guitar you are playing. A bass has lower notes than a guitar because of the strings and scale. Bass (generally) fills the lows and mids, while guitars fill the mids and highs (generally). That's why guitar and bass sound so good together--each fills an area that the other does not. If you want a full sound from one guitar you need to actually reproduce those low notes, not just EQ the low end of the notes you are playing.

I'd suggest this:

Guitar>>splitter A/B box

"A" channel goes to guitar fx pedals and then to guitar amp/cab.

"B" channel goes to an -1 octave down pedal and then to a bass amp/cab

That's about as full as you can get with one standard scale 6 string guitar.