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Re: This shit has to stop...
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 1:41 pm
by sonidero
THEBEERHAMMER wrote:ITSNOTTONGUEINCHEEKSONIDEROSHUTUPDAMNYOUNEVERLETMEHAVEANYTHING
You have things... Get MILK emblazoned on your Amp and start an Edge Band...
Re: This shit has to stop...
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 1:44 pm
by THEBEERHAMMER
sonidero wrote:THEBEERHAMMER wrote:ITSNOTTONGUEINCHEEKSONIDEROSHUTUPDAMNYOUNEVERLETMEHAVEANYTHING
You have things... Get MILK emblazoned on your Amp and start an Edge Band...
SOY
Re: This shit has to stop...
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 1:44 pm
by D.o.S.
Its interesting, because I'm a big fan of a lot of the previous wave (mid 00's) of heavy doomy stonery bands that used a lot of weed and drug references (Sleep's Tee Pee Dopesmoker, Bongzilla, Electric Wizard I and II, Weedeater, Boris [pink came with blotter paper] ) and I find the whole "do drugs" aesthetic pretty played out in the same scene now, but I also listen to a lot of reggae, which is inextricable from pot use, and I don't find it tiring at all.
I think the annoying thing about these fourth wave doom bands and "weed!" is that it comes across like a schtick employed to have a built in audience without having to write good riffs, good songs, or do anything to stand out from the sixty-bajillion other bands that tune to C and re-arrange Masters of Reality or tune to A, buy a bunch of appropriately vintage/vintage-looking gear and do the SUNN thing.
Re: This shit has to stop...
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 2:15 pm
by THEBEERHAMMER
D.o.S. wrote:
I think the annoying thing about these fourth wave doom bands and "weed!" is that it comes across like a schtick employed to have a built in audience without having to write good riffs, good songs, or do anything to stand out from the sixty-bajillion other bands that tune to C and re-arrange Masters of Reality or tune to A, buy a bunch of appropriately vintage/vintage-looking gear and do the SUNN thing.
Re: This shit has to stop...
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 2:25 pm
by sonidero
Stop trying to keep people from coming to see my shows...
Re: This shit has to stop...
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 3:18 pm
by dubkitty
D.o.S. wrote:I think the annoying thing about these fourth wave doom bands and "weed!" is that it comes across like a schtick employed to have a built in audience without having to write good riffs, good songs, or do anything to stand out from the sixty-bajillion other bands that tune to C and re-arrange Masters of Reality or tune to A, buy a bunch of appropriately vintage/vintage-looking gear and do the SUNN thing.
yeah, exactly. like how all Grateful Dead-influenced bands HAVE to use a GD lyric reference in their name, or the way US soccer teams blindly ape the names of famous teams from Europe/Latin America, e.g. DC United or Real Salt Lake.
Re: This shit has to stop...
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 3:42 pm
by D.o.S.
It's a phenomenon that's pretty rampant across all creative spaces, for sure. And, to me, it's far from the relatively benign a tip of the hat/all artists have influences thing. It comes across either a general lack of creativity and/or a pointed marketing attempt, and that shit leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Re: This shit has to stop...
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 3:44 pm
by sonidero
MUSIC 2013 = MARKETING!!!
Re: This shit has to stop...
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 3:49 pm
by D.o.S.
Yus. But I can still call it like I see it, right?
Re: This shit has to stop...
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 4:24 pm
by THEBEERHAMMER
D.o.S. wrote:It's a phenomenon that's pretty rampant across all creative spaces, for sure. And, to me, it's far from the relatively benign a tip of the hat/all artists have influences thing. It comes across either a general lack of creativity and/or a pointed marketing attempt, and that shit leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Re: This shit has to stop...
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 4:48 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
D.o.S. wrote:I think the annoying thing about these fourth wave doom bands and "weed!" is that it comes across like a schtick employed to have a built in audience without having to write good riffs, good songs, or do anything to stand out from the sixty-bajillion other bands that tune to C and re-arrange Masters of Reality or tune to A, buy a bunch of appropriately vintage/vintage-looking gear and do the SUNN thing.
D.o.S. wrote:It's a phenomenon that's pretty rampant across all creative spaces, for sure. And, to me, it's far from the relatively benign a tip of the hat/all artists have influences thing. It comes across either a general lack of creativity and/or a pointed marketing attempt, and that shit leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Now this I can agree with. Most definitely. It goes back to the Vest Metal atricle you posted in the Doom Room a while ago.....
http://www.metalsucks.net/2012/07/31/de ... -in-metal/
If you think Weed and Doom is cliche read that article and you'll be
'ing even harder..... IMO / YMMV of course....
Re: This shit has to stop...
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 4:53 pm
by controlFreak
Sleeping puppies. Everyone loves pictures of puppies sleeping in piles.
I'm going to sell so much gear with cute sleeping puppies on it.
Marketing genius.
Re: This shit has to stop...
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 5:02 pm
by THEBEERHAMMER
Ancient Astronaught wrote:D.o.S. wrote:I think the annoying thing about these fourth wave doom bands and "weed!" is that it comes across like a schtick employed to have a built in audience without having to write good riffs, good songs, or do anything to stand out from the sixty-bajillion other bands that tune to C and re-arrange Masters of Reality or tune to A, buy a bunch of appropriately vintage/vintage-looking gear and do the SUNN thing.
D.o.S. wrote:It's a phenomenon that's pretty rampant across all creative spaces, for sure. And, to me, it's far from the relatively benign a tip of the hat/all artists have influences thing. It comes across either a general lack of creativity and/or a pointed marketing attempt, and that shit leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Now this I can agree with. Most definitely. It goes back to the Vest Metal atricle you posted in the Doom Room a while ago.....
http://www.metalsucks.net/2012/07/31/de ... -in-metal/
If you think Weed and Doom is cliche read that article and you'll be
'ing even harder..... IMO / YMMV of course....
It kindof shocked me how much the tide turned in the three year span from 2005-2007. The extreme music scene seems like it completely ate its own tail. In 2005 we had bands breaking all kinds of new ground freely experimenting like an albatross and daughters and hot cross. That whole thing kindof imploded and we ended up with two things emerging as dominant. Doom and black metal. I still remember reading the articles decibel used to write downing black metal...i never got it. Black metal has proven to be a major creative force in the last 5-7 years and i couldnt be happier...but it seems like you have doom riding on its coattails.
Re: This shit has to stop...
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 5:10 pm
by sonidero
Because kids are afraid of the govt and in despair and locked into a paranoid online virtual life and only BLACK DOOM METAL can sooth their cold cold hearts...
Re: This shit has to stop...
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 5:13 pm
by Jwar
I want to know who made those pedals in the OP? Any ideas?