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metalmariachi wrote:Elvis was the greatest cover artist of all times.
He could do any one else’s music and it was still Elvis.

Yeah fuck yeah. Like with Hendrix version of Hey Joe - You guys knew it wasn't his song in the first place, didn't You? - is a good example of a great cover artist that makes a radical interpretation of a nice song and turns it into a classic.

A good cover artist brings forth the awesomitude of under appreciated good songs by great artists, that haven't perhaps got the producers full attention in the first place. Like I feel happened with Bananaramas superb version of Venus. Or then the song just get total face lift and I'm NOT speaking now about taking up the lead line and adding some beat to the background as is done by industry standards nowadays

Funny both the Beatles and Stones first albums were covers.
Rehashed Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry I believe one critic called them.

Peter Green’s Black Magic Woman and Tito Puente’s Oye Como Va may have remained obscure “nitch music” if Santana hadn’t put his spin on them.

One of the great things about ILF is the fact that we are an eclectic group who love music.
And no matter what the genre we can appreciate what musicians are doing.

Gearmond wrote:post-postmodernism is seeing/"finding" depth in superficiality. its a new symbolism where everything on the surface is meant to mean something whether it does or does not.

if people actually cared about substance, Nicki Minaj would have much less haters than she has.

yeah, i said it. disagree? i'll tell you why you shouldn't

isn't that just postmodernism?

Gearmond wrote:if people actually cared about substance, Nicki Minaj would have much less haters than she has.

If people cared about substance they'd realize that MM's initial post is just as superficial and meaningless as anything else could be. No offense dude, but it just sounds like blind cynicism based on unsubstantiated fact.

snipelfritz wrote:

Gearmond wrote:if people actually cared about substance, Nicki Minaj would have much less haters than she has.

If people cared about substance they'd realize that MM's initial post is just as superficial and meaningless as anything else could be. No offense dude, but it just sounds like blind cynicism based on unsubstantiated fact.

Well, he did self-identify it as a rant.

So, there was bound to be more emotional bluster than rational thought contained within.

I took it with more than a grain of salt because there's always been bad fake stuff. It's just that people often forget about the bad old fake stuff.

That's the nature of bad old fake stuff, it gets forgotten about (and with good reason).

Out of sight, out of mind.

i vote that mm writes a book about hi adventures (aka getting shot) in nam or whichever war it was. korea?

Isn’t the very nature of a rant actually channeling your inner crazy guy who stands on the corner naked and screams at the world?

Some times one just needs to howl at the moon.

MM
Sipping coffee while watching the sunset over the Ngong.

She was the daughter of one of the leaders of the Mau Mau insurrection.
Long black hair and ..

one half will be written by mm, the other by jamie when you get to the end of one story you flip the book over and start reading it backwards*

Gearmond wrote:though heres a point of argument:

whats harder to do: make something simple and popular, or make something complex and obscure?

i would assert that the first is more difficult to do

I agree with this completely. Some of the really great rock/pop music is so simple, but it really moves people. I'm thinking simple stuff like what Jack White or Syd Barrett does. The songs have depth and substance, but they are so basic. It's like the guy who discovered fire. They don't make it, they discover or uncover it.

In my opinion, shit's usually sucked. At the time, anyway. With the fallacy of retrospective in place, all we can do is complain about the present knowing that what we are comparing it to is a flawed and idealized recollection.

Man, Spineshank fucking sucked. And so did the Darkness. And those were bands that were huge in 'my day'. Along with sooo many others. And yeah, fuck trends and metalcore and whatever else the masses buy into, but the masses don't think about music as much as we do. The same way directors I know rail against Michael Bay whilst championing the works of Park-Chan Wook, we do with Drake and Coldplay vs. Earth/Wadada Leo Smith/MMW/Whomever you're into.

We all generally agree that Boss for the most part, suck, yet Smallsound/Bigsound/Dr. Scientist/Sonic Crayon are where the wonder is at. Again, we have more information than the dudes who just wander into guitar stores and pick up what's there.

With the internet around now, we have access to more information, and thus, have a better selection of options, but people will still only go as far as they're willing to look. And there's usually some amazing shit in obscure corners few will find, because they have no idea how bad what they enjoy is.

The same way incompetent people cannot know they're incompetent.

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