Imperialist or Pinko-CompARE/ Contrast socialism/Capitalism

[warwick.hoy]

I love Panko.

[Astricii]

I'm into some socialism. Capitalism seems to have failed pretty completely.

yeah and socialism has a great track record

Socialism isn't the same as totalitarian or authoritarianism which is what the really bad shit's been (Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia) They just used the name.

[warwick.hoy]

mmmmmmm,....panko.

[Derelict78]

I'm into some socialism. Capitalism seems to have failed pretty completely.

yeah and socialism has a great track record

Socialism isn't the same as totalitarian or authoritarianism which is what the really bad shit's been (Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia) They just used the name.

I did not say it is. but the Nazis and soviet russia did not just "use" the name they WERE socialist. Im not saying that Capitalism does not have its flaws. saying capitalism has failed and leaving the discussion some what open to socialism being a good thing seems a little flawed to me.

[Mudfuzz]

Speaking of the 3rd party thing - can anybody explain the us election system to me?

Now that you have read everyone else's posts... see what I mean

[warwick.hoy]

Seriously.

MOTHERFUCKING PANKO IS THE SHIT

[Derelict78]

yeah and socialism has a great track record

Socialism isn't the same as totalitarian or authoritarianism which is what the really bad shit's been (Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia) They just used the name.

I did not say it is. but the Nazis and soviet russia did not just "use" the name they WERE socialist. Im not saying that Capitalism does not have its flaws. saying capitalism has failed and leaving the discussion some what open to socialism being a good thing seems a little flawed to me.

Socialist programs and services seem to work in a shit ton of countries including the us but lets only judge them based on totalitarian governments.

hey I did not judge im just saying that socialism AS A FORM OF government does not work very well, tends to become totalitarian.

[jfrey]

The role of government: To protect it's citizens from direct harm.

That is all.

I believe this is known as Minarchism, but I could be wrong.

[Gearmond]

imo third parties have only served to distract and splinter the party they most identify with.

[Derelict78]

[Mudfuzz]

Hail satan!

[snipelfritz]

The role of government: To protect it's citizens from direct harm.

That is all.

I believe this is known as Minarchism, but I could be wrong.

Basically the role of government is to protect the predictable values of goods and services through contract enforcement, but not enforcement of justice, or something like that.

I forget I'm reading some of that sort of shit right now for a class.

Political Science! It's like foot ball, Chess, Magic: The Gathering, and scratching your balls combined!

[phantasmagorovich]

[Derelict78]

hey I did not judge im just saying that socialism AS A FORM OF government does not work very well, tends to become totalitarian.

Im just saying it still counts as a form of government when it's part of a hybrid system which there are lots of functioning examples currently and people tend to look at any form of communist or socialist ideals as the devil when they could probably benefit from them. I mean people as a whole don't make good decisions on their own or influence government that much anyway.

Yeah I was not referring to hybrids of any kind. I dont think of communists as "devils" just people with different views than me.

I mean i don't really care in the larger picture but i just find some sort of wrong in people not having access to basic services like good healthcare. Medicine kicks ass in the us when you have bank and good insurance otherwise it all seems super fucked.

Like sure i have to wait 3 months to go to the dermatologist out here but my copay is the equivalent of 1-2 hrs of minimumish wage work when i go to the normal doctor and not much more for specialists, meds are cheaper and it just seems that the minimum level of healthcare offered to people is a metric fuckton better.

are you in Canada?
anyway My biggest problem is where is the $ going to come from? I have not ever used welfare or anything like it. but I sure do pay for it with taxes. It just bugs the fuck out of me that things like schools and roads, the things that I am happy to pay taxes for SUCK and are falling apart but we have plenty of $ to tell people how to live ie the War on drugs,WAR. And welfare checks Im sure are never late.

hail satan, the arbiter of good bagels everywhere.

I think you guys got the message of
"the answer to 1884 is 666"
666=the Great beast= To Mega Therion=aliester Crowley
Al is running for president. Yeah he is English and dead but lots of people feel he is the best choice for President.

[McSpunckle]

hey I did not judge im just saying that socialism AS A FORM OF government does not work very well, tends to become totalitarian.

I believe most of these cases were totalitarian from the start and simply sold as socialism.

Unless Norway is much scarier than I realized.