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Re: Entheogens?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:16 pm
by Big Mon
unownunown wrote:no one's suggested damiana yet. it's cool to use to roll with if you don't like mixing weed with tobacco. damiana's a really gentle smoke and on its own it has subtle and vaguely weed-like effects. no word about the safety on it, as i'm not even sure what the active chemicals are. and it smells sooo good.
I've tried both wild dagga and klip dagga,which are totally different,but the effects were minimal. I mean,I wasn't expecting full-blown kush type of buzz,but wanted to experience maybe a little more than what I felt. The Indian Warrior's supposed to be pretty chill though. So maybe when it arrives,I'll dig it. Damiana's reported to be an aphrodisiac,too. Also,there's a shit ton of "legal buds"(various herbs compressed to look roughly akin to weed),and all of them have been revealed to be absolutely bunk. All of them,except for a site I found called LHS.com. Their blends have won several awards and they're even sending me a free sample

Re: Entheogens?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:17 pm
by Christopher
find a good rc source (use safeorscam.com) and get some cannabinoids and 2c-e
Re: Entheogens?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:43 pm
by Big Mon
Christopher wrote:find a good rc source (use safeorscam.com) and get some cannabinoids and 2c-e
Synthetic? Those motherfuckers scare me,man. I've messed with 'em before. Was rad for a bit,then I had the fabled panic attack
Re: Entheogens?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:10 pm
by Trifarce
My friend smoked like 10 bowls of some legal bud called Black Magic then vomited for half an hour, but if he smokes like 2 bowls, he's fine and it gets him pretty fucking baked

Re: Entheogens?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:15 pm
by tuffteef
blooghost wrote:Christopher wrote:find a good rc source (use safeorscam.com) and get some cannabinoids and 2c-e
Synthetic? Those motherfuckers scare me,man. I've messed with 'em before. Was rad for a bit,then I had the fabled panic attack
oo do tell
Re: Entheogens?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:37 pm
by Big Mon
tuffteef wrote:blooghost wrote:Christopher wrote:find a good rc source (use safeorscam.com) and get some cannabinoids and 2c-e
Synthetic? Those motherfuckers scare me,man. I've messed with 'em before. Was rad for a bit,then I had the fabled panic attack
oo do tell
Heart raced,head throbbed,but not in a migraine-y way,muscles tensed up,vision blurred,short of breath. Luckily,I've had many a panic attack before,and I knew what it was and rode it out. Still,I don't need fake cannabinoids to have anxiety attacks lol. But that shit hasn't even been researched. So,fuck it-hard.
Re: Entheogens?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:44 am
by proroby
blooghost wrote:tuffteef wrote:blooghost wrote:Christopher wrote:find a good rc source (use safeorscam.com) and get some cannabinoids and 2c-e
Synthetic? Those motherfuckers scare me,man. I've messed with 'em before. Was rad for a bit,then I had the fabled panic attack
oo do tell
Heart raced,head throbbed,but not in a migraine-y way,muscles tensed up,vision blurred,short of breath. Luckily,I've had many a panic attack before,and I knew what it was and rode it out. Still,I don't need fake cannabinoids to have anxiety attacks lol. But that shit hasn't even been researched. So,fuck it-hard.
I get those sometimes when I'm just really baked from good bud... Will never forget the first time it happened and had no idea. Totally bugged out, but I also had done coke, adderal, and alcohol, so that didn't help my panic attack at all. I've tried the synthetics and didn't particularly enjoy it. Everyone hypes it as it feelin like the first time you ever smoked... Not for me.
Re: Entheogens?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:09 am
by Big Mon
yeah,only time I sketched on good bud was when other stuff was involved. Synthetics just feel kinda like drinking gas
Re: Entheogens?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:22 am
by Junk
sorry if it's been posted already, but bouncingbearbotanicals seems like a pretty safe bet, it might be kinda pricey but that might just be the price you pay for legal trips
as for headshop stuff, i had some Kratom pills that were pretty great, again it was expensive but it was one of the cleanest feelings of sedation i've experienced. Time goes by super slow; i'd keep asking "dude is this song still playing?" when it wasn't even halfway over, stuff like that. Also accompanied by a big sense of well-being and overall chipperness i'd say. Great stuff for hanging out with friends or social events, idk.
Re: Entheogens?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:58 am
by Bassus Sanguinis
...and if You're heavily into shamanistic ethnobotanics and prepared to study a bit all this stuff, Erowids' Your friend.
http://www.erowid.org/ 
Re: Entheogens?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:16 am
by Big Mon
Bassus Sanguinis wrote:...and if You're heavily into shamanistic ethnobotanics and prepared to study a bit all this stuff, Erowids' Your friend.
http://www.erowid.org/ 
Ah,yes-Erowid. I've definitely done a fair amount of research. And with that,you sort of have to take into account,that our internal chemical make ups are different. Different substances will affect different people in different ways. For instance,I've read reports of people using Lion's Tail and getting off on it. All it has done to me is make my body feel sort of heavy and a little more relaxed. And that's pretty cool,but I wouldn't classify it as a "high". Calea(or dream herb) actually did give me a bit of a brief,weed-like buzz,but the real magic happened when I went to sleep. Out of body type dreams

I'd like to learn more about San Pedro Cactus and Peruvian Torch,specifically,what parts are consumed,how they are consumed,appropriate dosage,etc. But mostly looking for a good chill-out type of natural buz,a la weed,but-not-weed-type of thing. Waiting on my Pedicularis to get here. And after I smoke a test dose,I'll give a review.

Re: Entheogens?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:34 am
by dubkitty
maz91379 wrote:But idk i'm still kinda sketched out about research chemicals you are still in the hands of third world grey labs and the "retailers" not to mention that most of the compounds haven't been tested lots.
1000 times this. please take care that whatever you take has been documented as safe. i knew a lovely man who was part of the Burning Man scene and hung out with me when i was doing radio broadcasts there back around the turn of the Millenium. one weekend a few years ago he and his gf were found dead; it's thought they tried some unknown designer drug which was fatal since toxicology tests found no known cause of death.
Re: Entheogens?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:33 pm
by Big Mon
dubkitty wrote:
1000 times this. please take care that whatever you take has been documented as safe. i knew a lovely man who was part of the Burning Man scene and hung out with me when i was doing radio broadcasts there back around the turn of the Millenium. one weekend a few years ago he and his gf were found dead; it's thought they tried some unknown designer drug which was fatal since toxicology tests found no known cause of death.
Sorry for the loss of yr friend,man. And don't worry. Anything I might try will first be heavily researched. My "gobble up whatever drugs are laid out before me" days are long gone. I've done a fair amount of research on the Pedicularis. And when you consume it in a tea or eat it,there's a slight chance of tumors on the liver. However,smoking it,there's not much risk involved,aside from the smoke inhalation. And also,you have to get it from a reliable source(which I did),because it's semi-parasitic(so there's potential for it to absorb poisons from neighboring plants). What I'm getting is lab-grown,away from other plants. I have asked the vendor several key questions before placing my order,and researched the reputation of said vendor.

Re: Entheogens?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:40 pm
by dubkitty
i figured you were careful; i just felt it needed saying. they were dance-music scene people, and in those days there was a lot of self-testing of new compounds going on. folks in that scene were into a number of known drugs that were/are potentially lethal, ketamine and so on, and then people started fucking around trying to make altered legal versions. DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER.
Re: Entheogens?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:53 pm
by Big Mon
dubkitty wrote:i figured you were careful; i just felt it needed saying. they were dance-music scene people, and in those days there was a lot of self-testing of new compounds going on. folks in that scene were into a number of known drugs that were/are potentially lethal, ketamine and so on, and then people started fucking around trying to make altered legal versions. DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER.
Indeed. Basically,anything I'll experiment with will be entirely natural,pending extensive research. I'm too purdy to die just yet
