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Monkeyboard wrote:
Although the train thing is an interesting ethical dilemma and the spin offs are even better.

A train is heading towards 10 people no way to stop it etc.

but you are standing on a bridge and if you push the fat guy in front of you (which will stop the train) would you do it?

Naw, cause in real life, you can't stop a train with a fat guy. And in real life, you're gonna be hard pressed to find a fat guy in possession of a nuke that can kill millions of people.

I could've taken the time to be a bit more clear/philosophical in my post, but I'm sticking with the basic thrust of what I said. Unlikely hypotheticals. Which can be fun and thought provoking, but not for any practical / real-life-based philosophical purposes.



--Is killing someone wrong?
--Yes.
--What if a man has a Rocketeer jetpack that's malfunctioned, and he's speeding toward the last elephant left on the planet. But that elephant is about to die of old age anyway, and there's a whole village of starving people that it could feed--thus saving the lives of everyone in the village. But if the man on the jetpack hits the elephant, it will explode into tiny inedible pieces, leaving the whole village to starve to death. BUT! You have a baseball bat! And you can smash the guy on the jetpack as he goes by, throwing off his course, sending him careening into a missionary family...killing all four of them, but saving a hundred villagers and allowing the elephant to die naturally.
So NOW what do you do? Huh? Huh?

pretend i saw nothing. THEN I WIN BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW!

plus if the elephant explodes into tiny pieces can't the village eat these elephant pieces? you'd be saving them the time of elephant chopping.

unownunown wrote:pretend i saw nothing. THEN I WIN BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW!

haha.

unownunown wrote:plus if the elephant explodes into tiny pieces can't the village eat these elephant pieces? you'd be saving them the time of elephant chopping.

Thought about that one. Either the pieces are too small and too charred, or something about deadly jetpack fuel.

phantasmagorovich wrote:Hey dubkitty, you ever read Heidegger?

no...i've read summaries and such, but i just don't have the time and energy to read long philosophical works any more. especially when they're translated from German into English

dubkitty wrote:

phantasmagorovich wrote:Hey dubkitty, you ever read Heidegger?

no...i've read summaries and such, but i just don't have the time and energy to read long philosophical works any more. especially when they're translated from German into English

You might want to do so. He takes a far more eastern approach to philosophy.

Just ignore the fact he supported the nazi regime.

Monkeyboard wrote:

dubkitty wrote:

phantasmagorovich wrote:Hey dubkitty, you ever read Heidegger?

no...i've read summaries and such, but i just don't have the time and energy to read long philosophical works any more. especially when they're translated from German into English

You might want to do so. He takes a far more eastern approach to philosophy.

Just ignore the fact he supported the nazi regime.

I couldn't have said it better.

phantasmagorovich wrote:

Monkeyboard wrote:

dubkitty wrote:

phantasmagorovich wrote:Hey dubkitty, you ever read Heidegger?

no...i've read summaries and such, but i just don't have the time and energy to read long philosophical works any more. especially when they're translated from German into English

You might want to do so. He takes a far more eastern approach to philosophy.

Just ignore the fact he supported the nazi regime.

I couldn't have said it better.

Me neither. We're all children of our times and surroundings, Heidegger making no exception here. If You can bare it, take notes on how the doctrine go together, where and why, and follow the lead to the so what from there.

What comes to his works, his phenomenological approach to the philosophical method and it's history is a turning point in the Continental philosophy.