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Re: Welcome my friend (a different one than last)
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 1:35 pm
by bigchiefbc
dubkitty wrote:so, Vinnie, are you using a different compressor now, and if so what? i can see how the PT would be less than optimal for bass; i'm working out how to get what i want from it for guitar, but you'd really need more attack/decay control for bass (i also play bass sometimes).
Honestly, I LERVE my Philosopher's Tone. But then again, I have a really bright, high-mid-y tone for a bassist. I really don't care about the crazy sub-lows.
Re: Welcome my friend (a different one than last)
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 2:58 pm
by theavondon
bigchiefbc wrote:dubkitty wrote:so, Vinnie, are you using a different compressor now, and if so what? i can see how the PT would be less than optimal for bass; i'm working out how to get what i want from it for guitar, but you'd really need more attack/decay control for bass (i also play bass sometimes).
Honestly, I LERVE my Philosopher's Tone. But then again, I have a really bright, high-mid-y tone for a bassist. I really don't care about the crazy sub-lows.
Hey, sub-lows are overrated. High five.
Re: Welcome my friend (a different one than last)
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 4:13 pm
by mauerkraut
theavondon wrote:bigchiefbc wrote:dubkitty wrote:so, Vinnie, are you using a different compressor now, and if so what? i can see how the PT would be less than optimal for bass; i'm working out how to get what i want from it for guitar, but you'd really need more attack/decay control for bass (i also play bass sometimes).
Honestly, I LERVE my Philosopher's Tone. But then again, I have a really bright, high-mid-y tone for a bassist. I really don't care about the crazy sub-lows.
Hey, sub-lows are overrated. High five.
I sweaar only bassists can understand this. The bass guitar is centered and mixed in the LOW MIDS. Quit occupying kick drum atmosphere.
Re: Welcome my friend (a different one than last)
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 4:57 pm
by dubkitty
i don't think most people have mixed a bass (or a band, for that matter) through, say, a 1/3 octave graphic EQ and paid attention to where the frequencies actually occur, and what is actually happening at e.g. 60Hz.
Re: Welcome my friend (a different one than last)
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 7:36 pm
by bigchiefbc
mauerkraut wrote:theavondon wrote:Hey, sub-lows are overrated. High five.
I sweaar only bassists can understand this. The bass guitar is centered and mixed in the LOW MIDS. Quit occupying kick drum atmosphere.
Well, it's
supposed to be mixed in the low-mids. Unfortunately, almost every sound guy I've ever worked with never learned this lesson, and considered the bass to be part of the drum kit. There was one sound guy that was awesome, and actually had the guitarist clank away on my bass while he had me walk the room with him, and he asked ME whether I liked the bass tone. It was awesome
Re: Welcome my friend (a different one than last)
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:22 pm
by Fuzzy Picklez
bigchiefbc wrote:mauerkraut wrote:theavondon wrote:Hey, sub-lows are overrated. High five.
I sweaar only bassists can understand this. The bass guitar is centered and mixed in the LOW MIDS. Quit occupying kick drum atmosphere.
Well, it's
supposed to be mixed in the low-mids. Unfortunately, almost every sound guy I've ever worked with never learned this lesson, and considered the bass to be part of the drum kit. There was one sound guy that was awesome, and actually had the guitarist clank away on my bass while he had me walk the room with him, and he asked ME whether I liked the bass tone. It was awesome
I'm pretty sure that was a dream man.
That could never happen in real life.
Re: Welcome my friend (a different one than last)
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:48 pm
by bigchiefbc
Fuzzy Picklez wrote:bigchiefbc wrote:Well, it's
supposed to be mixed in the low-mids. Unfortunately, almost every sound guy I've ever worked with never learned this lesson, and considered the bass to be part of the drum kit. There was one sound guy that was awesome, and actually had the guitarist clank away on my bass while he had me walk the room with him, and he asked ME whether I liked the bass tone. It was awesome
I'm pretty sure that was a dream man.
That could never happen in real life.
I was pretty damn drunk, but it happened. I bet he was a frustrated bassist himself.
Re: Welcome my friend (a different one than last)
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:07 am
by warwick.hoy
Hi.
I play bass too,
I'd love to give a Musket a go. Although you have to watch out for the weapon that rendered the musket obsolete. Musket Repellent.
Re: Welcome my friend (a different one than last)
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:13 am
by Mudfuzz
theavondon wrote:bigchiefbc wrote:dubkitty wrote:so, Vinnie, are you using a different compressor now, and if so what? i can see how the PT would be less than optimal for bass; i'm working out how to get what i want from it for guitar, but you'd really need more attack/decay control for bass (i also play bass sometimes).
Honestly, I LERVE my Philosopher's Tone. But then again, I have a really bright, high-mid-y tone for a bassist. I really don't care about the crazy sub-lows.
Hey, sub-lows are overrated. High five.
I unreceptively disagree
Re: Welcome my friend (a different one than last)
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:07 am
by mauerkraut
To be clear are we talking bass TONE as in your clean or "base" tone, or are we talking with effects. Because pitch shifting and octave effects are my favorite. I love me some crazy dynamic range and messing with the hierarchy of pitches for an EFFECT. Elaborate Mudfuzz.
Re: Welcome my friend (a different one than last)
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 3:15 am
by Mudfuzz
Mainly that you should stay in the low mids range, I don't like to have the kick lower then me but have to kick have more mids and have the bass and kick overlap at times, makes for a bigger sound. Also If I need to I have a bass tuned to low low C which is a 7th under a normal low B, I don't use it much and mostly for noise music but it is a cool sound.
Re: Welcome my friend (a different one than last)
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:50 pm
by mauerkraut
wowza. interesting.
Re: Welcome my friend (a different one than last)
Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 5:01 am
by Bassus Sanguinis
mauerkraut wrote:Yes. As of late I've been using a mixture of my amp and a Fulltone BD for my OD sounds. I typically playing clean on 7. Throw it up to 10 for some spank, pedal throws into od. And I was thinking the blend on the PT wouldn't hurt. But I lost the dynamic range I needed. So for sustain I just turn my amp up more.
I shot out the PT vs. the Boss CS-2 for what I wanted for a over the top singing boost. Something about the CS-2 which is technically probably less quality makes the CS-2 sing to me. Maybe it's the nasty build or the presence of an attack knob.
...clipping top boost = best thing there is, for a bassist. I'm ready to forget for good about all low boosts as llong as I can get a crunchy top boost and trebly crispies for breakfast. And THEN some fuzzzzzz.
so yeah, wellcome aboard.
Re: Welcome my friend (a different one than last)
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:54 am
by mauerkraut
Mmhmm that's where much of the harmonic content is. Upper mids and beyond.
Re: Welcome my friend (a different one than last)
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:03 pm
by futuresailors
Dear bassists,
Oh, and welcome vinnie. or vince. or whatever.