AxAxSxS wrote:Nick you make some fucking amazing sounding demo's. Do you record at lower volumes mostly? Another thing about backing off is if you like to mix speakers, you get the whole sound. I think it adds depth to the sound as well.
the kick mic is probably way less sensative so adjustment would be a lot smaller. I use sm57, 58's and some cheap condensor mics. For live band recordings, just the condensors
I usually try to record a high volume. If I feel like doing it right I mix camera audio with audio from a large body condenser which is about 1 foot away from the cab at an angle, ala the Annunaki demo. Soundcloud is just the condenser mic
skullservant wrote:Got a mic stand tonight, so I was able to position it in the proper location for recording. This is my first test:
ARC Gamut -> Madbean Egghead Overdrive -> EA Super Collider -> Eventide Timefactor -> TC Trinity Reverb -> Out 1 to Verellen stack with kickdrum mic, Out 2 to Epi Valve Junior with 60's Vocal Mic
Damn dude shit is hot!!!!! Love that reverbed sound 2/3 of the way in, is that the trinity?
As far as the micing / mixing, yeah the drums are definitely peaking out in the mix. As far as the guitar though on my shitty work laptop it sounded pretty good, I perceive the mud in the mix coming from the low end in the drums. Since your using a kick mic on the cab, especially a "budget friendly" one backing off the mic isn't going to help your tone all that well. I use a variety of low end capturing mics for guitar (sub-kick, various kick mics PR48 / F14) and they need to be right up on the speakergrill to get the right amount of signal, while other more standard dynamics like an sm57 or equivalent need to be atleast an inch or so off the grill. This is mainly due to whats called proximity effect (which causes an unnatural bass boost), which most kick mics are designed to be unaffected by.
Iommic Pope wrote:
Skip, you rule. You hate people so much, you're willing to discredit all human progress, its awesome.
Thanks dude!! And yeah, half Trinity, and half this delay I made on the TimeFactor that pretty much sounds like a freeze mixed with a cathedral setting reverb- everything just lingers!
I'll mix down the drums a bit when I get home and put up that mix as well!
skullservant wrote:Thanks dude!! And yeah, half Trinity, and half this delay I made on the TimeFactor that pretty much sounds like a freeze mixed with a cathedral setting reverb- everything just lingers!
I'll mix down the drums a bit when I get home and put up that mix as well!
No problem!!! Loving that tone my friend definitely keep those settings around! It's that perfect mashup of gaze-y and doom-y.
Cool, if you need any help or anything I'm just a text away!
Iommic Pope wrote:
Skip, you rule. You hate people so much, you're willing to discredit all human progress, its awesome.
So I finally got to mess around with my gig rig since the show this past saturday and found out that my VB-2 didn't shit the bed, my cab just stopped working So I brought it home to open it up and check it out tonight, I'm hoping that just a solder connection came loose or disconnected. Worst comes to worse I blew all of the speakers somehow (260w cab blown by a 225w head on 1.5?!?!?!) but atleast I can fix the cab my self, in comparison to the amp which I would have to take to a tech. Still haven't gotten a chance to double check the VB-2 yet, but no other heads worked with the cab. I'll be double checking the VB-2 on thursday.
Iommic Pope wrote:
Skip, you rule. You hate people so much, you're willing to discredit all human progress, its awesome.
Ancient Astronaught wrote:So I finally got to mess around with my gig rig since the show this past saturday and found out that my VB-2 didn't shit the bed, my cab just stopped working So I brought it home to open it up and check it out tonight, I'm hoping that just a solder connection came loose or disconnected. Worst comes to worse I blew all of the speakers somehow (260w cab blown by a 225w head on 1.5?!?!?!) but atleast I can fix the cab my self, in comparison to the amp which I would have to take to a tech. Still haven't gotten a chance to double check the VB-2 yet, but no other heads worked with the cab. I'll be double checking the VB-2 on thursday.
well u did get to use naki for bass. I guess lucky experiment. Could just be a shit jack.
oh and t-rey, i'm not that vid. i'm just a semi-regular from hcfx, i PLAY the guitar, i can't build guitars.. or peddles. well, pretty much.
Touche - I definitely remember you from over there, and still glad you made it over here
new05002 wrote:this is some of the really important research i am involved in
Seems like you guys have really mastered invisibility. You should start working on growing money trees next.
skullservant wrote:Got a mic stand tonight, so I was able to position it in the proper location for recording. This is my first test:
ARC Gamut -> Madbean Egghead Overdrive -> EA Super Collider -> Eventide Timefactor -> TC Trinity Reverb -> Out 1 to Verellen stack with kickdrum mic, Out 2 to Epi Valve Junior with 60's Vocal Mic
new05002 wrote:well u did get to use naki for bass. I guess lucky experiment. Could just be a shit jack.
Yes I did!!! Sounded sick!!!! Also found out a few things about amp + cab interaction. The Dunwich through a 1000w cab needs to be cranked (2-3:00) to get to practice / gigging volume, but it through a 300w + 390w cab is ungodly loud. It seems the closer you get your cab wattage rating to the output of the amp, the louder it gets according to the volume dial. Gotta say though that the Naki as a bass amp had this wonderfully warm and full low end, but its alot more hi-fi and full range then the VB-2, so I think that it would need some tens to go with my 15's to get the most out of it.
Yeah I'm thinking its a solder connection, or a shit jack. That's the only two things I can think of that would make a cabinet produce absolutely no sound, not even 60hz hum. We'll find out tonight.
Iommic Pope wrote:
Skip, you rule. You hate people so much, you're willing to discredit all human progress, its awesome.
new05002 wrote:moose nice iron man, looks like partridge given the intense lacquering on them.
From what I've read it's apparently not Partridge but the lacquering makes me think it's a copy of some sort. The output transformer looks more like a Partridge than the Mains though. Check out all the exposed terminals and the straight brackets, might need some bells for there. Only labelling I've found is a dried up sticker with "HEAVY DUTY" MAINS TRANS on it.
new05002 wrote:moose nice iron man, looks like partridge given the intense lacquering on them.
From what I've read it's apparently not Partridge but the lacquering makes me think it's a copy of some sort. The output transformer looks more like a Partridge than the Mains though. Check out all the exposed terminals and the straight brackets, might need some bells for there. Only labelling I've found is a dried up sticker with "HEAVY DUTY" MAINS TRANS on it.
interesting. I dont know so much about old partridge stuff. Oli Foxen probablys knows more than I do about it.
So I brought it home to open it up and check it out tonight, I'm hoping that just a solder connection came loose or disconnected. Worst comes to worse I blew all of the speakers somehow (260w cab blown by a 225w head on 1.5?!?!?!) but atleast I can fix the cab my self, in comparison to the amp which I would have to take to a tech. Still haven't gotten a chance to double check the VB-2 yet, but no other heads worked with the cab. I'll be double checking the VB-2 on thursday.
