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Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:50 pm
by new05002
broken record but OCD into RAT. I put the OCD with just a small hint of gain and the RAT more OD but when you stack them its fuckin super heavy
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:56 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
new05002 wrote:broken record but OCD into RAT. I put the OCD with just a small hint of gain and the RAT more OD but when you stack them its fuckin super heavy
I tried your purple version of that out and it sounded pretty damn good but didn't have the massive low end I like, there's just something about the elements pedal that works for me that nothing else has done.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:58 pm
by new05002
oh yea I feel ya there. Thats why all you need is the baxandall EQ after the RAT to bring back that massive low end and its win
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:59 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
new05002 wrote:oh yea I feel ya there. Thats why all you need is the baxandall EQ after the RAT to bring back that massive low end and its win
I tried that too

but it killed my clean tone, made it way bass heavy, which becomes very apparent when your running 15's in your setup.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:05 pm
by conky
I had a Sunn Solarus and ran a Ruetz modded Rat 2 into it and it was the heaviest tone I had ever gotten. Then the amp died

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:09 pm
by new05002
Ancient Astronaught wrote:new05002 wrote:oh yea I feel ya there. Thats why all you need is the baxandall EQ after the RAT to bring back that massive low end and its win
I tried that too

but it killed my clean tone, made it way bass heavy, which becomes very apparent when your running 15's in your setup.
you tried the volt thrower already?
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:19 pm
by sergiomunoz74
Rat II I feel sounds completely different from the big box. Sounds a lot more bass heavy and compressed. The elements seems rad but I'm generally lazy with pedals with more than a couple knobs. Hell All my pedals besides two have only 3 knobs. Yes I'm special.
I've right now decided that instead of stacking, I'm setting up my dirt as just different flavors. Honestly when I stack rat/muff and rat/rat it sounds way similar after long jam seasons repeating the same riff over and over.
Hey Ancient, do you have any videos of you dooming out on your current setup? would be interested to hear.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:44 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
new05002 wrote:Ancient Astronaught wrote:new05002 wrote:oh yea I feel ya there. Thats why all you need is the baxandall EQ after the RAT to bring back that massive low end and its win
I tried that too

but it killed my clean tone, made it way bass heavy, which becomes very apparent when your running 15's in your setup.
you tried the volt thrower already?
No the OCD / RAT pedal you made, into a baxandall EQ on the Naki. I just now realized what you meant, with a baxandall eq, you mean on the pedal not the amp.
sergiomunoz74 wrote:Hey Ancient, do you have any videos of you dooming out on your current setup? would be interested to hear.
Plenty!!!
Home Rig; Dunwich Annunaki w/ Emperor 6x12 + 3x15:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_A1WVJzX8k[/youtube]
Gig Rig; Peavey VB-2 w/ Emperor 4x12:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxjj4XigQTc[/youtube]
Full rig; Dunwich (Master) w/ Emperor 6x12+3x15 and Peavey (Slave) VB-2 w/ Emperor 4x12+2x12 (I have since traded the 2x12 for a 2x15 but don't have any vids of that in the setup yet)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUwrVNslb8M[/youtube]
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:02 pm
by sergiomunoz74
Jesus, what are the dirt pedals you use besides the elements. I thought my pedal gas was done, but goddamn this is some good shit. Especially when you run that Tele and still sound ridiculously doomy even in standard.
Eventide Space: Sunn Set lawlz
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:09 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
sergiomunoz74 wrote:Jesus, what are the dirt pedals you use besides the elements. I thought my pedal gas was done, but goddamn this is some good shit. Especially when you run that Tele and still sound ridiculously doomy even in standard.
Eventide Space: Sunn Set lawlz
hahaha the only other dirt pedal is my custom BAT - Burial Chamber, it's an LSTR into an OCD clone (slightly mod'd for more gain) w/ a master on / off (its the one with the skull on it). The tele sounds particularly delish with that pedal.
hahaha I have a couple with the Sunn name in them on the Space, and a few on the Timeline as well, Sunn Spot, Sunn n Rain, Sunn Aura, Sunn Halo, O))) Face..... I might have a slight obsession with Stephen O'Malley and Greg Anderson......
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:30 pm
by AxAxSxS
Ancient Astronaught wrote:Do any of your heads have FX loops? You can send a slave-in signal to the FX loop return of an amp as long as its post pre-amp (I believe ALL are but not sure) and serial (parallel wouldn't work I believe, easy way to test is to plug a guitar in the front input and any cable in the FX send but not the return if you get no signal your good ot go!). This is exactly what I do with the Naki into the VB-2, all though since mine are different power sections I have to have a
volume controller between them to even out the volumes.
Sidenote: I have never gotten along with rats very well

I've had to tried a few different models and nothing ever spoke to me as OMG THIS IS AMAZING!!! I guess I'm more in to wooly chug with some grit on it, RAT's had a thin fizzy quality that just didn't jive with me.
No amps with loops

The earths have two slave outs, and another marked "recording output tape" but no inputs aside from the ones in front. the Soundtronics also has a slave out, no in. The ward GIM-9171A has nothing but speaker outs.
that's what I get for going with weird old obscure heads

They do sound pretty fucking good though. running 4 amps is overkill anyways, but I'm always scheming about how to make it better/bigger/more
Maybe I should start looking for poweramps that could work with my setup and keep the extra head as a backup.
I'm with ya on the rats btw, just don't work for me. To fizzy and to much crazy feedback. Nicks pedal sounds really intriguing though as it sounds like he's worked out how to tame it. I'm gonna make tony get one and try his

tony

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:48 am
by deathmonkey
Ancient Astronaught wrote:new05002 wrote:broken record but OCD into RAT. I put the OCD with just a small hint of gain and the RAT more OD but when you stack them its fuckin super heavy
I tried your purple version of that out and it sounded pretty damn good but didn't have the massive low end I like, there's just something about the elements pedal that works for me that nothing else has done.
Damn. You go to the studio for one day, and You miss 10 pages. I'm up way past my bed time cause i did like 4 giant cups of coffee while screaming my nuts off.
Anywho. I recently got the new fuzzrocious pedal, the ram the manparts job which is a quick overdrive that he did based on a power amp chip. Running that into the elements has become my newest, favoritest sound. Yeah, I said Favoritest.
I'm torn between that and the Rat now. I love my Rat King, but Jesus, the RTM thickens and fills out the tone that the elements was missing. Love it.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:08 am
by new05002
Swapped the BKP Pig90 and Stockholm from baritone in this guitar

Now later I will put the blade pups into the baritone
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:20 am
by theavondon
Ancient Astronaught wrote:theavondon wrote:image.jpg
This. This, plus guitar in drop A equals big smiles.
Very nice! And hell yeah on the drop A!!!!
Sidenote: I have never gotten along with rats very well

I've had to tried a few different models and nothing ever spoke to me as OMG THIS IS AMAZING!!! I guess I'm more in to wooly chug with some grit on it, RAT's had a thin fizzy quality that just didn't jive with me.
I've owned like...six rats. A big box reissue, a Rat 2, a Rat Tail, a Dirge FKR, a Biyang Mouse, and now this. I only like this one, and the Rat Tail. They've ALL sounded different.
It's hit and miss, essentially.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:34 am
by sergiomunoz74
Damn makes me want to sell my reissue and my rat II to get an original big box. I can hear the difference also, a lot of people tell me that there ain't no mojo in rats but I will deny that to death.