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Leviathan doesn't count as old mastodon damnit. Remission, Lifesblood, Call of the Mastodon. that's only what is old.

Sorry I like to split hair. also Leviathan is where they lost me.

ShaolinLambKiller wrote:Leviathan doesn't count as old mastodon damnit. Remission, Lifesblood, Call of the Mastodon. that's only what is old.

Sorry I like to split hair. also Leviathan is where they lost me.

I don't think there's really any objective way to categorize an album as "old" or "new" when the band has been together less than 20 years, but to put it in perspective Leviathan came out just a little over 10 years ago. It was their second album, their first released recording was only 3 years before and they've released 4 full length albums since. That album was released within the first quarter of the band's existence and the first third of their full length discography...I think most people would consider that "old" material for a band.

ShaolinLambKiller wrote:Leviathan doesn't count as old mastodon damnit. Remission, Lifesblood, Call of the Mastodon. that's only what is old.

Sorry I like to split hair. also Leviathan is where they lost me.

Leviathan was definitely a change from Remission and the EP work, so I understand what you mean. Leviathan was the first big change, then Crack the Skye, then The Hunter.

After delving properly into Once More 'Round The Sun, I can actually say the only album I dislike is The Hunter. The new album is actually pretty decent. It's nothing on their past work, but it's a huge improvement over the washy and troubled Hunter record from 2011. Fuck, that was a trip I don't want to take again.

I stopped at crack the skye. I actually feel Blood Mountain and Crack the Skye are better than Leviathan. Partly cause they stripped down so much on Leviathan and Dailor's drum work on that is so subdued that I just don't care for it. Hell the 3rd time I saw them live also the last time... was right on the verge of the release and having remission songs pared up with Leviathan songs just showcased even more how lax and boring they were to me. hell dailor looked like he was going to fall asleep while playing.

But I rarely listen to any from that era but remission i listen to the least, I don't care about current mastodon. heard stuff from the hunter... no care was even more disappointed. heard stuff from once more round the sun felt it was more the same and I honestly don't care to spend any further time with it. There is so much great music out there that I rather spend my time with.

Once More 'Round The Sun is more of the same, yeah. But it's at least more cohesive as an album. It also has tighter and clearer production work that's a little more sparing and less cluttered. Brann still can't sing those harmonies live, though. I love Brann's singing, but he just can't hit those high notes when drumming in a live context. It's a shame, but I kinda wish they had stuck with what they were good at.

My favourite LP's from first to last:

Blood Mountain
Leviathan
Crack the Skye
Remission
Once More 'Round The Sun
The Hunter

Mine if it wasn't obvious:

Lifesblood ( I know it's not a LP but even when they released Remission they were doing their best to not play shit from it)
Remission
Crack the Skye
Blood Mountain
Leviathan

don't have shit else. I wish they stuck with their earliest carnation. Cause even after lifesblood. I won't say I was disappointed with Remission but I wanted more crazy stuff like Shadows that move.

I get what you mean. One of the first heavy songs I ever heard was Iron Tusk and Blood and Thunder. I was listening to those two tracks in 2004 over and over again. I was only a whipper snapper at 15 or so and it left a big imprint on me. Blood Mountain was their follow-up and it was everything someone new to the band could have wanted, but I recognize that to folks who had initially heard Lifesblood and was into that kind of raw heavy and insane sound, it was pretty far off. For me, that was too heavy and I was too much of a metal virgin to soak it in. The same could be said for early Dillinger Escape Plan. It wasn't until Ire Works in 2007 that I was able to appreciate what that band was all about. Now they're one of my favourites.

With that said, regarding Mastodon, Bladecatcher from Blood Mountain was fucking nuts! So many time changes and insane death metal-inspired riffs.

I guess it's cause I'm an oldfag, i was 23 in 2004. I knew of dailor's work with Bill in Today is the day on the eyes of god, so I found that ep a very pleasing addition to their catelogue. Further more cause of that today is the day record I sought out their older band Lethargy which frankly just shits on everything else they had ever done.

But I can see the love of leviathan through your eyes cause hell those two are catchy songs in general but I have that gloss of disappointment over them.

I'm the same with dillinger Escape plan. thought the st was pretty nice, lot of deadguy worship but still good. Under the Running board ep was fucking insane, I loved it. Calculating Infinity was the pennacle so amazing. and then they just sorta hung about. I don't care much for greg's need to be Mike Patton and I don't like their experimentations. the Ep they did with mike patton was alright just not that great.

I thought miss machine had like 3 or 4 good songs... one of them I knew long before when demitri was still in the band. the one titled Casey the werewolf... it used to be called a song 50v Phantom (your band sucks) and I had a radio recording of it and it was just so much better with demitri on vocals. so after miss machine I didn't bother any further. I think out of what the last 3 records or 4? including miss machine they might have one good album out of it that I'd appreciate.

But i do remember bladecatcher being the jamz. and since you liked that one dig into Lethargy if you never have before.

Yeah, I'll have a look at Lethargy! Is Lethargy with Mastodon's original singer?

Calculating Infinite is an amazing album, but it's not like the most recent four (starting with Ire Works) where I could listen to them any time of the day, however I'm feeling. I gotta be in the mood for 43% Burnt.

Before Mastodon, I was listening to Coldplay, Feeder, Oasis, Blur, Bob Dylan, Neil Young. In all fairness, I still listen to some of those, but I just wasn't used to hearing something so aggressive as Calculating Infinite and Remission.

ahh Mastodon...Crake the Sky was for me their pinnacle. I think musically they were all playing at a very high level, with melodies, riffs and balance of brutal and softness that made the songs very mature. I kinda equate that album to Metallica's Justice album, which again is my favourite of theirs. Its interesting that both bands did a similar thing on their next album...dumb down the music for commercial success. Its almost like they hit a point where they didn't have any more creativity or they didn't want to try so hard with songs...so they just gave up!

I don't have the history of SLK with Mastadon's back catalogue or previous bands, so i must check it out. Back in the early 2000's i was heavily into my death metal and swedish invasion In Flames and Opeth were huge for me back then.

...And Justice is my favourite Metallica album too.

AngryGoldfish wrote:...And Justice is my favourite Metallica album too.

Hey Skip!

AngryGoldfish wrote:Hey Skip!

Hi Dan.

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and yes Lethargy had Mastodon's very first singer as well. he handled guitars and vocals in Lethargy.

I've always been a huge fan of death metal, I started listening to dm back when I was 16-17. Before that it was mainly classical music, and then some grunge or whatever is close to grunge before. I was mainly interested in the sounds the guitars made. I had no problem listening to Failure and Suffocation back to back. So I never really stopped listening from one genre to the other, just happened to get more that gave me more of what I enjoyed. so right about 2000I had a ton of death, black, grind, and the same ol alternative/grunge stuff I liked as well but I started getting a bit more into hardcore and metalcore, before I only had a few releases like Cave In's earlier stuff, Converge, Earth Crisis. But I ended up getting more like the handshake murders, the August Prophecy, the Red Chord. basically new and different song structures that I wasn't overtly familar with. i was never a huge fan of melodic death metal, I got a few releases and was overly mehhed by it. A few bands I did like but it was like Dark Tranquility, the first 2 albums of At the gates.... but the mainstayed jewels of that genre I didn't care much for.. .slaughter the soul, heartwork.... meh boring.

I don't have a favorite metallica album cause they were never an influence on me and I only got some albums because so many people talked how they loved them. I was already into Sodom and Kreator so metallica always felt boring to me.