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so is this Arrows deal a treble boost? different? tighter low end and bigger overall sounds appealing, really diggin the Naga though.

Pelliott - I gotcha, keep the amp quiet and let the pedals have the volume they want. Makes sense, and probably works pretty well with the Arrows. Not that my amps are loud, but I should give that a shot.

Ax - I'm actually not sure what it is. EQD Jamie said it's a colorful boost/cut pedal or something like that. I read some review that compared it to what a Klon does when clean boosting, but I have my doubts about the accuracy of that statement given the very wide ranging descriptions of what a Klon actually does. Alls I know is that it has some magic in there for a dark amp, and makes my Pharaoh chug like you wouldn't believe. Like so much that I'm kind of contemplating selling the QM...

that board is tight t-macho
i just recently tried a chorus in my shit
im kinda hooked now
that arrows sounds like 0% fun
but if you say so
is it an always on sorta thing?
or you get a big blast from it?

Thanks. I love chorus - the Cosmi sounds really great after fuzz as well.

The Arrows will be an always on thing for me, probably set just a bit over unity gain just because of the eq change on my cleans and what it does to dirt. It can provide a pretty large boost if you want though.

It seems similar to an EP booster, just that sparkly clean boost that gets a little gritty at the end of the dial, adds some good compression there. Really tightens up dirt pedals very nicely.

All this Arrow talk is getting me really interested...i must check it out...

pelliott wrote:It seems similar to an EP booster, just that sparkly clean boost that gets a little gritty at the end of the dial, adds some good compression there. Really tightens up dirt pedals very nicely.

I raised this over in the EQD thread and Jamie was quick to shoot it down. So while it is NOT an EP1 pre pedal, it behaves similarly.
I have a henretta Emerald Prince (up for sale) which is an EP1 pre in one of those tiny enclosures and I found I liked it always on, up front of the chain, like T. Brings out interesting elements in dirt placed after it as well.

Iommic Pope wrote:

pelliott wrote:It seems similar to an EP booster, just that sparkly clean boost that gets a little gritty at the end of the dial, adds some good compression there. Really tightens up dirt pedals very nicely.

I raised this over in the EQD thread and Jamie was quick to shoot it down. So while it is NOT an EP1 pre pedal, it behaves similarly.
I have a henretta Emerald Prince (up for sale) which is an EP1 pre in one of those tiny enclosures and I found I liked it always on, up front of the chain, like T. Brings out interesting elements in dirt placed after it as well.

Yeah I said similar, but I know Jamie is trying to make sure it's known to be not the same circuit.

Ja. They got kinda trendy all of a sudden.
They are quite useful, though.

samzadgan wrote:All this Arrow talk is getting me really interested...i must check it out...

I can see it being a solid addition to your rig.

t-rey wrote:

samzadgan wrote:All this Arrow talk is getting me really interested...i must check it out...

I can see it being a solid addition to your rig.

Well after buying a couple of pedals from Pope for my second board for the Matamp...im thinking the dirt on the matamp could be the pharaoh + Arrow...based on your description it would be a damn good combo...

I could chuck in that Emerald Prince for a good price on group buy. It'll cost nothing extra to post.....

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t-rey wrote:

pelliott wrote:

unhhhghhhghghgh

Yep. That will definitely bring the toanz. In other news, our boards are really similar again...it was only a matter of time

I also have no idea how you are running that kind of volume in an apartment, I assume you have superpowers.

Edit for pics:

i voted for you in the bilf. i think the board pic was a little different, but i knew it was yours. so many nice boards, but so few i could imagine playing through. basically, a nice dirt section and the presence of either a ghost echo or a dmm caught my attention.

fever606 wrote:

I neeeeed a big box Ghost Echo...

you just need a ghost echo. best reverb out there, particularly with dirt. why big box though, it's the same circuit either way? i prefer smaller, given the choice, but suit yourself.

misterstomach wrote:

fever606 wrote:I neeeeed a big box Ghost Echo...

you just need a ghost echo. best reverb out there, particularly with dirt. why big box though, it's the same circuit either way? i prefer smaller, given the choice, but suit yourself.

You're right, of course, that it makes no functional difference. But I have big, dumb feet and like some breathing room between those pesky footswitches. I'll take the "big box" version of just about any pedal for that reason alone.