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D.o.S. wrote: the Constitution is a fluid

That's the name of our new band.

If this country disarmed (of which there is zero chance of ever happening) what would we tell the people in rural Idaho, and North Dakota? "Don't worry...if guys show up to harm your ranch, or rape and murder your family, just call the police...they'll be here to help you in a few hours."

The vast majority of this country is RURAL. Rural in a way that most people cant get into their heads about the word rural.

Even in the city, when seconds count, the police are just minutes away. And when they arrive, they shoot you and all your loved ones.

that is relatively disingenuous given that most of the gun violence in this country is self-inflicted, no?

But sure, if the scary man under the bed terrifies you, you reach for your night light. I get it.

Also considering that the bill of rights are Amendments (you know, things that change [that's what amend means, fyi] the original text of the Constitution), the idea that it's not a fluid document is flat-earth levels of wrong.

HighDeaf1080p wrote:
The vast majority of this country is RURAL.

That's changing though and has been for a while.

And also I'm kind of tickled that someone who lives in a city that is roughly ten times the size of the city that I live in is going to tell me what's really rural and what isn't and how to understand it.

But grew up in a population 1200 town. And understands things you apparently don't about 93% of this country. Which is why I have unfettered access to horrifying devices of terror, that actually don't scare me at all, since I grew up using them. And neither does the bump in the night...since I have that device of terror by my side.

I live a shockingly fear free life, given I'm a violent crime survivor, after a gentleman on crystal meth decided he wanted my car back in 2006, and attempted (and failed) to car-jack it. Not sure why that incident didn't leave me with any PTSD. Must be that piece of mind that my firearms give me. And thanks to our constitution, will continue to give me.

That's uh, not how PTSD works.

Strange Tales wrote:That's uh, not how PTSD works.

Really? How does it work?

NIMH Definition: PTSD is a disorder that develops in some people who have experienced a shocking, scary, or dangerous event.

I experienced this event...didn't and haven't developed any PTSD. I believe that it is because of the knowledge I have that I can protect myself.

It works by a massive overflow of adrenaline during the event causing a biochemical change in your brain. The definition is just the surface.

Strange Tales wrote:It works by a massive overflow of adrenaline during the event causing a biochemical change in your brain. The definition is just the surface.

Then why do some people develop it from the death of a loved one? Doesn't seem like that would cause a massive overflow of adrenaline. It also seems you have some causality knowledge that the National Institute of Mental Health does not have. You should call them and let them know.

HighDeaf1080p wrote:But grew up in a population 1200 town. And understands things you apparently don't about 93% of this country. Which is why I have unfettered access to horrifying devices of terror, that actually don't scare me at all, since I grew up using them. And neither does the bump in the night...since I have that device of terror by my side.

I live a shockingly fear free life, given I'm a violent crime survivor, after a gentleman on crystal meth decided he wanted my car back in 2006, and attempted (and failed) to car-jack it. Not sure why that incident didn't leave me with any PTSD. Must be that piece of mind that my firearms give me. And thanks to our constitution, will continue to give me.

I've lived in tiny ass towns where everyone owns guns, too. Has fuck all to do with your understanding of the constitution.

Oh...my understanding of the constitution.

Given the current state of gun availability, which of us is more right about that document?

Like I said, if your so scared of guns...change the constitution. Apparently its easy...since its a fluid document.

HighDeaf1080p wrote:

Strange Tales wrote:It works by a massive overflow of adrenaline during the event causing a biochemical change in your brain. The definition is just the surface.

Then why do some people develop it from the death of a loved one? Doesn't seem like that would cause a massive overflow of adrenaline. It also seems you have some causality knowledge that the National Institute of Mental Health does not have. You should call them and let them know.

It's incredibly well documented.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2046048
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12242055
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14644068

Also the death of an individual will cause a hormonal response which is more often than not a release of adrenaline to deal with stress. So yes, PTSD can develop from the death of a loved one.

I'm not sure why I'm doing this.

HighDeaf1080p wrote:Oh...my understanding of the constitution.

Given the current state of gun availability, which of us is more right about that document?

Like I said, if your so scared of guns...change the constitution. Apparently its easy...since its a fluid document.

I'm not scared of guns, I'm just pointing out that you're fundamentally wrong about the nature of the Constitution's construction (and for that matter, I've lived in towns too small to have their own police force, which would seem to be the perfect example for "what are we going to tell the people of rural Sticksville" and I still think they're fucking stupid). To the question, I'll say that correlation =/= causation, and that there are massive amounts of money donated on behalf of gun owners to keep legislation from being passed that would change it.

You drink alcohol, right? Heard of prohibition?

Strange Tales wrote:

HighDeaf1080p wrote:

Strange Tales wrote:It works by a massive overflow of adrenaline during the event causing a biochemical change in your brain. The definition is just the surface.

Then why do some people develop it from the death of a loved one? Doesn't seem like that would cause a massive overflow of adrenaline. It also seems you have some causality knowledge that the National Institute of Mental Health does not have. You should call them and let them know.

It's incredibly well documented.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2046048
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12242055
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14644068

Also the death of an individual will cause a hormonal response which is more often than not a release of adrenaline to deal with stress. So yes, PTSD can develop from the death of a loved one.

I'm not sure why I'm doing this.

SO what IS your point? That I didn't experience adrenaline when a meth-head was beating me in the face and trying to steal my car? I'm lost here. Explain to me your comment "That's uh not how ptsd works."