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Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:11 pm
by t-rey
Holy Schnikes wrote:Quick Doom Spam! Just received my "Deluxe" Badascan from Mark so I'm putting my original Doom Room proto up for grabs. It's the smaller version in a sparkle black finish.
$115 shipped if anyone is interested.
skullservant wrote:Been on too tight of a budget to buy anything anymore. Stumbled upon the V2 Super Collider schematic and modded it to V3 specs AND made the diode toggle 3 way so the middle position is no diodes. It's definitely throwing my Tall Font off the board... I totally respect EA for coming up with this and as a disclaimer for independent builders such as EA I won't be selling this one!
Badass skully! I have the Beast with the "choke" and "roar" oscillation footswitch options and I love that thing, totally different than any other muff I own. I'm guessing it's the v3 SC used in the Beast as it's a recent model. What's the difference when compared to v2 specs anyway?
new05002 wrote:id like to check the SC, but honestly I have not found a muff out there that is the end all be all for me. They are all pretty good but cant get over the hump. My faves are pharaoh and BB.
I think you'll dig it, totally different than a Pharaoh, more of a high gain monster but plenty of tone variation in there.
As for muffs in general, my goal in the end is to own a bunch that excel in completely different aspects cuz it's impossible for me to find an end-all-be-all-style muff circuit.
I'm pretty happy with these here, cover a wide array of muff tonez:
Pharaoh rules hard obviously and is my favorite, hands down. Beast for the higher gain heavies, Big Green for the nasty-ish heavies, Badascan Deluxe for a HUGE plethora of sounds:
Talk to me about how the BADASCAN and Pharaoh differ in sound
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:22 pm
by skullservant
LED CLIPPING RULES
It's got just a LITTLE extra hair to it than no diodes. Borderline distortion with the LEDs. It's pretty neato!
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:24 pm
by new05002
LED clipping will be less compressed than Si because LEDs have a larger threshold voltage. So the waveforms will only be clipped at higher amplitudes. So more output volume and less compression
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:28 pm
by t-rey
Is it any brighter than the Pharaoh? I love my Pharaoh, but sometimes it sounds a tad dark/muffled on it's own. Keep in mind I don't and can't play at high volumes, so I'm not sure how much of this is purely a volume issue.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:29 pm
by phantasmagorovich
t-rey wrote:Is it any brighter than the Pharaoh? I love my Pharaoh, but sometimes it sounds a tad dark/muffled on it's own. Keep in mind I don't and can't play at high volumes, so I'm not sure how much of this is purely a volume issue.
People keep telling me the Pharaoh only sounds really good when it's played at high volume.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:30 pm
by new05002
i dont think any of the BAT muffs are bright to my ears
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:34 pm
by crohny
It's not brighter. The low end seems a bit tighter. Handles palm muting better than the Pharaoh does. The attack is a bit more focused as well.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:34 pm
by new05002
it was supposed to be in my mind a muff to bridge the LSTR/pharaoh gap thus why i originally suggested it
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:36 pm
by crohny
phantasmagorovich wrote:t-rey wrote:Is it any brighter than the Pharaoh? I love my Pharaoh, but sometimes it sounds a tad dark/muffled on it's own. Keep in mind I don't and can't play at high volumes, so I'm not sure how much of this is purely a volume issue.
People keep telling me the Pharaoh only sounds really good when it's played at high volume.
This is true. Pharaoh sounds it's best when it's hitting an amp that is pushing the power section. Trey, the Badascan may be good for you because it does well regardless of how loud you play. If you'd like I can send you mine to try out.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:43 pm
by skullservant
new05002 wrote:LED clipping will be less compressed than Si because LEDs have a larger threshold voltage. So the waveforms will only be clipped at higher amplitudes. So more output volume and less compression
The SC uses 1N4001 diodes for clipping on the switch, I thought it was interesting, I'd never seen that before
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:45 pm
by new05002
1n4001 arent 2 much different then 1n914s. They have a very similar threshold and since you dont care about things like PIV rating in pedals they should function pretty much the same
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:51 pm
by skullservant
Ah, I gotcha! Interesting!
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:55 pm
by t-rey
crohny wrote:phantasmagorovich wrote:t-rey wrote:Is it any brighter than the Pharaoh? I love my Pharaoh, but sometimes it sounds a tad dark/muffled on it's own. Keep in mind I don't and can't play at high volumes, so I'm not sure how much of this is purely a volume issue.
People keep telling me the Pharaoh only sounds really good when it's played at high volume.
This is true. Pharaoh sounds it's best when it's hitting an amp that is pushing the power section. Trey, the Badascan may be good for you because it does well regardless of how loud you play. If you'd like I can send you mine to try out.
Thanks man - I may take you up on that soon.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:08 pm
by crohny
Just let me know when. Have the Pharaoh on my board currently so the badascan could use some abuse.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:07 pm
by Holy Schnikes
t-rey wrote:Is it any brighter than the Pharaoh? I love my Pharaoh, but sometimes it sounds a tad dark/muffled on it's own. Keep in mind I don't and can't play at high volumes, so I'm not sure how much of this is purely a volume issue.
Yeah, it's not really brighter in the general sense of the word but it's definitely higher gain and tends to be more present, even at lower volumes like crohny pointed out.
Sounds real close to a Pharaoh at high volumes in silicon settings but the voicing is just different probably due to that increased gain. Not really night and day but you can distinctly hear it when you run 'em side by side. The LED setting is cool too, nastier and louder than the germ setting on a standard Pharaoh, a unique tone really, pretty punchy for the single note lines.