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I think on your tremolo patch you should have the second control blend in an envelope filter. So I the pedal the tremolo would feed into a low-pass envelope filter, and the frequency of the filter would be controlled by the extra control. So at one end of the control you'd have choppy tremolo and at the other end you'd have lasers.

This pedal is going to be all the things that love should be made of.

My whole pedal board is eventually going to be solely Dr. Scientist gear + a looper and I have no problem with that.

One pedal to rule them all...

Ryan You should consider a double BQ in a larger enclosure with a series/parallel switch.

This looks so so cool! I think that I'm going to end up with a performance "board" of just this, a Small Stone, a footcontroller for laptop, and a tuner.

For Patch 2, lowpass seems best for the expression, but that said I don't even know of any highpass filters with expression for guitar save those big EHX pedal. is it possible to make it so that the first half of the expression pedals sweep controls the highpass, then the second half controls the lowpass, or something equally ridiculous?

For Patch 6, I think delay rate would be coolest, just because you can then mess with the pedal during the repeats and throw them totally out of tune!

Thanks for going through that super long post guys, I appreciate you following along and I appreciate the suggestions!

backwardsvoyager wrote:With patch 2, are the LPF and HPF in series? If so I'm guessing there would be no wet signal if you set the LPF cutoff lower than the HPF cutoff, but at the same time you'd be able to make awesome bandpass filter settings too.
Also personally I think expression control of LPF cutoff would be more useful but I'm sure it would be cool either way.

You have it pretty much right there, you can set both filters to give you basically no wet sound, dial out all the frequencies in each of them.. or you can set them so that they're slicing off the top and bottom and leaving you with something in between.. that's where the cool sounds live in my opinion, in the bandpass.. like awesome all mids sounds..

Doctor X wrote:patch 1: heh, ryan finally does that wah-wah pedal

personally i might prefer to have the LPF and HPF as separate effects, both with a resonance control instead (maybe dropping the trem patch)

Haha yeah! You work that frquency knob with your foot and you make some weird resonant wah frequency shifting sounds... I guess fuzz and wah is kinda cool, who knew? *big smile*

Those filters could be individual patches for sure, they're powerful and with an extra control knob they could be slick separate filters.. the thing about having them together is the cool/weird sounds you can make by using them both at once which you couldn't do in the same way at all if they shared a knob.

wfs1234 wrote:I think on your tremolo patch you should have the second control blend in an envelope filter. So I the pedal the tremolo would feed into a low-pass envelope filter, and the frequency of the filter would be controlled by the extra control. So at one end of the control you'd have choppy tremolo and at the other end you'd have lasers.

I think this is a perfect idea to finish up Patch 8, I love it! I haven't done anything yet with envelope control but I'm gonna learn how this weekend...

goroth wrote:Ryan You should consider a double BQ in a larger enclosure with a series/parallel switch.

:D

Haha one BQ just won't be enough hey! Like a SuperSize combo BQ.. I like your style.. ship it with a 72Oz Coke.. this could be cool...

Bartimaeus wrote:For Patch 2, lowpass seems best for the expression, but that said I don't even know of any highpass filters with expression for guitar save those big EHX pedal. is it possible to make it so that the first half of the expression pedals sweep controls the highpass, then the second half controls the lowpass, or something equally ridiculous?

For Patch 6, I think delay rate would be coolest, just because you can then mess with the pedal during the repeats and throw them totally out of tune!

I think LPF is best for guitar players too.. I think it sounds better to take away highs rather than lows.. although that's totally subjective... I can't split up the expression control like that though, that's the same as putting both filters on the CTRL1 knob and it would make it so you couldn't use both filters at once, you'd have to choose between them, and I don't like that as much.

I think delay rate is fun too, makes for the biggest change in the sound...

Thanks again, guys, and I'll do another big update after the long weekend.. I'm hoping to pretty much finish it up this weekend.. assuming the lasers go well.. guitar pedals with frickin laser beams attached to their heads...

Super cool!

Ryan wrote:

backwardsvoyager wrote:With patch 2, are the LPF and HPF in series? If so I'm guessing there would be no wet signal if you set the LPF cutoff lower than the HPF cutoff, but at the same time you'd be able to make awesome bandpass filter settings too.
Also personally I think expression control of LPF cutoff would be more useful but I'm sure it would be cool either way.

You have it pretty much right there, you can set both filters to give you basically no wet sound, dial out all the frequencies in each of them.. or you can set them so that they're slicing off the top and bottom and leaving you with something in between.. that's where the cool sounds live in my opinion, in the bandpass.. like awesome all mids sounds..

That sounds good, thanks for the clarification!

SOEXCITEDLASERSOMG

I'm super exited for this. Putting little bits of $ aside for it and puting other gear on hold! This should be a pretty cool b day gift to myself.

Ryan wrote:

wfs1234 wrote:I think on your tremolo patch you should have the second control blend in an envelope filter. So I the pedal the tremolo would feed into a low-pass envelope filter, and the frequency of the filter would be controlled by the extra control. So at one end of the control you'd have choppy tremolo and at the other end you'd have lasers.

I think this is a perfect idea to finish up Patch 8, I love it! I haven't done anything yet with envelope control but I'm gonna learn how this weekend...

*blushes*

I think for things to line up right the control for LFO rate would have to control the length of the envelope.

How in the living heck have I missed the development of something SO AMAZINGLY BADASS for so long? I just got caught up on this dealio, and WHOA. That's all I can say. Just... WHOA.

VERY ESSCITED!!!!

Man...
This is awesome!

BTW Ryan, is it possible to do a glitchy stutter delay patch? Something that just samples up to 2 seconds and will keep playing that phrase until your next phrase?

And what about reverse verb?

Sorry. I know I'm late to the game.

wfs1234 wrote:I think for things to line up right the control for LFO rate would have to control the length of the envelope.

I agree, I'll sync those suckers up! Geez I hope I can do this, could be an awesome sound...

jrmy wrote:How in the living heck have I missed the development of something SO AMAZINGLY BADASS for so long? I just got caught up on this dealio, and WHOA. That's all I can say. Just... WHOA.

Thanks for checking it out Jeremy!

hazelwould wrote:BTW Ryan, is it possible to do a glitchy stutter delay patch? Something that just samples up to 2 seconds and will keep playing that phrase until your next phrase?

And what about reverse verb?

I plan on getting into delay weirdness bigtime when I work on a proper delay pedal release but for now, I don't know. Lots of stuff is possible, lots of stuff is possible only if you're smart enough and know the programming well enough...I still have a lot to learn.

The Spin chip has been out since 2005 and nobody has come up with reverse reverb yet... so I don't really expect to be the one who does. Not to say it can't be done, but it's way over my skill level now and maybe something the chip isn't really suited for, which the designer/distributor has flat out said in the forum... but hey, there was no arpeggiator application until this summer, so I betcha some smart cookie will come up with it...