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Strange Tales wrote:Resin, easiest way to get this done: https://mutable-instruments.net/modules/blinds/

That'll attenuate and offset for you. Module is indispensable (buy more fuckin VCAs ya'll)

that's exactly what I need. thanks for the suggestion! saved me a lot of time dickin around modular grid

Ryo 2xVCX is cool too. I use it a lot as a CV Crossfader for more complex envelopes. Also works well enough as a mixer. The setup was weird to get used to at first, but I like it in my small system (2 crossfaders, 2 4 quad multipliers, 4 signal mixer, 2 regular vcas, or combinations of).

Befaco a*b+c might be something to look at too.

Just thinking of smaller options.

Res, for something similar to Blinds yet smaller, check out some of Happy Nerding's stuff:

http://www.happynerding.com/category/3xmia/

http://www.happynerding.com/category/3xvca/

Happy Nerding always interests me, but i think it was a bitch to find someone in the states that sold them?

soooooo.... Muffs Humans suggested using a summing VCA, and i KIND OF understand.... i think? what would be going on?

but with a Branches, it takes 1 input then coin flips and sends to one of 2 outputs. i wanted to do the reverse, have it have 2 inputs that it chose between, and send to 1 output.

with Veils, i send the two inputs signals into a VCA each, then send the Branches outs into each VCA, when the coinflip is A then VCA 1 is open, when the coinflip is B then VCA 2 is open, sending their respective inputs on? and i would plug into the first 2 VCA's and out the second VCA's out, so it would sum to one output?

also, would an inverter be what i want if i'm trying to have Pam's put out a ramp envelope? like, i'd love to have an envelope that slowly builds then cuts off either right on a measure or right before. there's a ramp envelope option that starts full then fades, and the offset and percentage options, but i can't figure out how to reverse it?

YESH. OSC' Y. NEED TO LEARN VCAS MORE.

for an inverter, the Blinds is a good option? i only have 4 VCA's in my setup, but smaller is always better.

behndy wrote:also, would an inverter be what i want if i'm trying to have Pam's put out a ramp envelope? like, i'd love to have an envelope that slowly builds then cuts off either right on a measure or right before. there's a ramp envelope option that starts full then fades, and the offset and percentage options, but i can't figure out how to reverse it?

YESH. OSC' Y. NEED TO LEARN VCAS MORE.

for an inverter, the Blinds is a good option? i only have 4 VCA's in my setup, but smaller is always better.

Inverter will ramp it into negative.

Just trigger a slew gen or envelope. That's the easiest way.

Sport Mod is good for those kinda things.

behndy wrote:Happy Nerding always interests me, but i think it was a bitch to find someone in the states that sold them?

soooooo.... Muffs Humans suggested using a summing VCA, and i KIND OF understand.... i think? what would be going on?

but with a Branches, it takes 1 input then coin flips and sends to one of 2 outputs. i wanted to do the reverse, have it have 2 inputs that it chose between, and send to 1 output.

with Veils, i send the two inputs signals into a VCA each, then send the Branches outs into each VCA, when the coinflip is A then VCA 1 is open, when the coinflip is B then VCA 2 is open, sending their respective inputs on? and i would plug into the first 2 VCA's and out the second VCA's out, so it would sum to one output?

Use the coin flip out to trigger a switch or Crossfader (defaults to one channel, so your second branches out can do something else too). The veils thing would work too, but something like the switch on bastl Dynamo might be less thinking haha.

Happy Nerding is at analoguehaven...so salestax for you...

Summing mixer adds the two cv voltages together...like one CV is +1v and one is +3, you get a CV of +4v (moving of course). It's like and on maths. I think they are thinking unity mixer.

If you wanted to turn Pam's ramp down wave into a ramp up wave you would have to invert it then offset it:


So the ramp wave currently starts at +5v and ends it's cycle at 0v: +5v-> 0v.

If you inverted the signal it would travel -5v->0v. Inverting only makes positive voltage negative, and vice versa.

But if you added a +5v offset to the -5v->0v signal, the wave would then travel from 0v->+5v.

Blinds would be able to do this, as would 3xMIA, Shades, Triatt, and others. The thing that's nice about Blinds and 3xMIA is you can attenuvert and offset with one channel, the others I listed require using another channel for offset.

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Haha, yeah, that's the way.

(I have no way to offset currently...so I don't pay much attention to it).

The intellijel inverter also includes a 90 degree phase shift which is fun.



Anything in euroland like the buchla 257e/256e with CV breakpoints? Yeah, I know I could pull it off with some switching and vcas, but sticking to under 200 hp (preferably 104...but I still have that trogotronic case). Verbos stuff could pull it off...but it's all a lot of hp to dedicate to something I'd still have to kinda work around (though the sequence selector and voltage multi-stage would have a ton of use outside of that....but 64hp)

[quote="lordgalvar"
Use the coin flip out to trigger a switch or Crossfader (defaults to one channel, so your second branches out can do something else too). The veils thing would work too, but something like the switch on bastl Dynamo might be less thinking haha.

Happy Nerding is at analoguehaven...so salestax for you...

Summing mixer adds the two cv voltages together...like one CV is +1v and one is +3, you get a CV of +4v (moving of course). It's like and on maths. I think they are thinking unity mixer.[/quote]

fucking sales tax. NO THANK YOU. but. hurm. good to know. thanks!

lol. durp. a switch sounds WAY less comolex. HURPA. FURKAH. DURPAH.

thanks!

kbit wrote:If you wanted to turn Pam's ramp down wave into a ramp up wave you would have to invert it then offset it:


So the ramp wave currently starts at +5v and ends it's cycle at 0v: +5v-> 0v.

If you inverted the signal it would travel -5v->0v. Inverting only makes positive voltage negative, and vice versa.

But if you added a +5v offset to the -5v->0v signal, the wave would then travel from 0v->+5v.

Blinds would be able to do this, as would 3xMIA, Shades, Triatt, and others. The thing that's nice about Blinds and 3xMIA is you can attenuvert and offset with one channel, the others I listed require using another channel for offset.

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you IZ smarts! thanks. that explanation makes the SENSE.

Anybody know why the fuck the 2hp Mix consumes 41ma at both +12v and -12v, while the Befaco consumes 14ma at +12v and 11ma at -12v and the Doepfer A-138 consumes 10ma at both +12v and -12v? What makes the 2hp draw 4 times as much as the Doepfer?

Magnets

Fucking magnets.

how do they work.

YESSSSSSSSSS. found a Belgrad! WOOT. ON. THE. WAY.