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This is the exact opposite of doom but I'm going to see Wax Tailor tonight, he makes trip hop. Tomorrow Russian Circles, Between the Buried and Me, Coheed and Cambria. No doom or doomy stuff, but shows none the less.

skullservant wrote:It's no problem dude. I'm even a little closer to you now being in the city, so I can bring soup!!!! haha

Mmmmmmmmm soup.... Loaded baked potato or broccoli cheddar?

pelliott wrote:There's a lot of exercises that can be done to improve your pain/symptoms and make your strength and posture better. If you find a good physical therapist who works in a lot of functional movement evaluation you may be able to get on a daily stretching/exercise program that would help significantly. Also, non-surgically. Speaking as an athletic trainer, I think surgical intervention for discs sucks a big one and much of the time isn't worth it, especially if you can get the symptoms and signs under control with a good PT program.

I've been through those programs before due to my herniated disc in my lower back. They've helped quite a bit and I've been trying to do some of the exercises that I learned, but this new injury is in my upper back (I believe between my t3/t4 discs) and I'm not sure how much the ones I know will help. Luckily for right now its mainly just causing major discomfort, no real "pain" but my pain threshold is so high now that I probably count a 4 on my scale as an 8 on other peoples. I definitely am going to start working out more and focusing on losing some weight to help balance myself out.

deathmonkey wrote:Not that I have back problems to this degree, apart from the damage i do to my neck and back head bbanging and playing the devil's music... But i was in a car accident when i was 16 (I'm 32) and wretched my back and it never quite got back to 100%. It's something i lived with for the bast 15 years or so. Anywho, last year around my birthday I realized i was approaching Fat piece of shit status (I weighed 300 pounds when i started) I started working out, pushing myself hard. Lost 30 pounds through diet and exercise and i really focused on my core (all my weight was in mah gut) My posture is so much better and I feel so much healthier. It's amazing just how out of shape you can become. My goal is to run a spartan by this summer. Thats going to SUCK.

(I'm sure i will have back issues eventually, my dad had a 750,000 dollar, 14 hour surgery 5 or 6 years ago to correct the arthritis/disc damage he had. I am so much like my dad physically i am sure i have that to look forward to)

I definitely know that feel bro, I was in a horrible car accident when I was 18 that netted me a crushed orbital socket and a 3 inch long fracture of my skull, and a multitude of back problems that wouldn't arise till many years later. I also have noticed some dramatic weight gain since I stopped playing drums, I went from 200 to 245 rather quickly, so I'm trying to use diet and exercise to get it back down to where i was. Being 6'4" I think 200lbs is a healthy weight (even though the doc says i should be 180 but i havent weighed that much since I quite the nose candy).

Jeebus criminey that's a freaking surgery.... Hows he holding up now? and good luck on the Spartan!!!!!!

conky wrote:Mojo sent to your back Skip. I have gnglion cysts on my right wrist that made it harder for me to play drums. I sleep with a wrist brace when they start hurting really bad and it helps. For the past year I have been putting an 18 guage needle in it at work and draining it. It helps alot. I opted out of having them cut out because 80% of the time they return anyway. Hope you get everything straightened out. I went from eating meat to vegetarian to vegan and I felt better with each lifestyle change. Sounds like you're taking a lot of the right steps to get healthier.

Thank Clifton! Ouch I know that feeling, they couldn't lance the one in my wrist because it was literally inside the joint. I couldnt bend my wrist at all, and they had to go in and pull it out through the tendons. It also didn't help that it was larger then the X-Ray showed so he had to rework some things from his plan. I was told that normally they will lance them a couple times to see if they will go away, then resort to surgery. I just don't like the idea of an 18 gauge needle that close to my spine (it's directly connected to the side of the disc between t3/t4 from what I can tell). I'm working on getting back to vegetarian full time, I'd go vegan as I have before but I just can't live without cheese, I seriously can't do it. Last time I tried I found myself shamefully waiting till 3am so I could sneak down to the fridge and eat straight cheese so know body would know....

conky wrote:Also, how do you marafakas multiquote? I haven't figured out how to do it yet.

You can open quotes in new tabs and copy / paste, or when you go to quote there is a window down below that has a slider that lets you review the last page and a half of posts and they have a quote button in each post so you can add them on.

The Wood Wizard wrote:I cant figure that out either haha. NEWBS


Skip, I feel your pain. I have zero insurance right now and if anything happens to me i lose it all and then some in a heartbeat. glad you caught it quick though, youre better off in the long run. Hope you get well soon. Worst case scenereo I make a giant one stringed bass that you can hit with a hammer. Tuned to the brown note...ONE OCATVE BELOWWWW!!

hahahahahahaha Thanks TJ! I could use a single Z string tuned instrument tuned one octave below the brown note..... through 40000watts and 16 24" speakers!!!! Too exterminate all life!

Ancient Astronaught wrote:

skullservant wrote:It's no problem dude. I'm even a little closer to you now being in the city, so I can bring soup!!!! haha

Mmmmmmmmm soup.... Loaded baked potato or broccoli cheddar?

DUDE LOADED BAKED POTATO! WITH BACON BITS AND SOUR CREAM AND CHEESE!

Ancient Astronaught wrote:

deathmonkey wrote:Not that I have back problems to this degree, apart from the damage i do to my neck and back head bbanging and playing the devil's music... But i was in a car accident when i was 16 (I'm 32) and wretched my back and it never quite got back to 100%. It's something i lived with for the bast 15 years or so. Anywho, last year around my birthday I realized i was approaching Fat piece of shit status (I weighed 300 pounds when i started) I started working out, pushing myself hard. Lost 30 pounds through diet and exercise and i really focused on my core (all my weight was in mah gut) My posture is so much better and I feel so much healthier. It's amazing just how out of shape you can become. My goal is to run a spartan by this summer. Thats going to SUCK.

(I'm sure i will have back issues eventually, my dad had a 750,000 dollar, 14 hour surgery 5 or 6 years ago to correct the arthritis/disc damage he had. I am so much like my dad physically i am sure i have that to look forward to)

I definitely know that feel bro, I was in a horrible car accident when I was 18 that netted me a crushed orbital socket and a 3 inch long fracture of my skull, and a multitude of back problems that wouldn't arise till many years later. I also have noticed some dramatic weight gain since I stopped playing drums, I went from 200 to 245 rather quickly, so I'm trying to use diet and exercise to get it back down to where i was. Being 6'4" I think 200lbs is a healthy weight (even though the doc says i should be 180 but i havent weighed that much since I quite the nose candy).

Jeebus criminey that's a freaking surgery.... Hows he holding up now? and good luck on the Spartan!!!!!!

Oof. My accident wasn't nearly that bad for me. My friend wrapped a beautiful 1969 Chevy nova SS around a tree on our way to school one morning(when the engine turned over after the accident it tour itself free of the motor mounts and ended up upside down in the engine compartment). It was just too wet out and the car was too powerful to control when we went around a corner. I don;t even remember most of that day apart from getting picked up and waking up after it happened. I had a concussion and jacked up back. I got lucky. After they cut us out, I walked out of the car. My friend who was driving broke both legs(compound fractures), hand and had to get tons of stitches. To top it off he was a hemophiliac, so it was rough. SOOOOO much blood.

My dad's surgery went really, really well. He was sort of stubborn and refused to get it looked at for years. By the time he had surgery he was driving a golf cart around the factory he worked because he couldn;t stand for more than an hour without his legs going numb. He had so many pinched nerves that he could barely walk. He'd come home from work, take a ton of pain killers and go to sleep at like 6pm. after the surgery, you'd never even be able to tell. My mom and him have been making up for lost time and go all over the world for vacation now. You can barely tell. It's sort of awesome to see him back to his old ass self. In the end the surgery fused (i think) L1-L4, He has rods supporting all 5 Lumbar vertebrae and there are 3 or 4 carbon fiber cages to help hold it all together. I forget how many screws. I should get his x rays. They are metal as fuck.

skullservant wrote:DUDE LOADED BAKED POTATO! WITH BACON BITS AND SOUR CREAM AND CHEESE!

No fair!!!! Now I'm hungry!!!! but that does sound delicious right now......

deathmonkey wrote:Oof. My accident wasn't nearly that bad for me. My friend wrapped a beautiful 1969 Chevy nova SS around a tree on our way to school one morning(when the engine turned over after the accident it tour itself free of the motor mounts and ended up upside down in the engine compartment). It was just too wet out and the car was too powerful to control when we went around a corner. I don;t even remember most of that day apart from getting picked up and waking up after it happened. I had a concussion and jacked up back. I got lucky. After they cut us out, I walked out of the car. My friend who was driving broke both legs(compound fractures), hand and had to get tons of stitches. To top it off he was a hemophiliac, so it was rough. SOOOOO much blood.

My dad's surgery went really, really well. He was sort of stubborn and refused to get it looked at for years. By the time he had surgery he was driving a golf cart around the factory he worked because he couldn;t stand for more than an hour without his legs going numb. He had so many pinched nerves that he could barely walk. He'd come home from work, take a ton of pain killers and go to sleep at like 6pm. after the surgery, you'd never even be able to tell. My mom and him have been making up for lost time and go all over the world for vacation now. You can barely tell. It's sort of awesome to see him back to his old ass self. In the end the surgery fused (i think) L1-L4, He has rods supporting all 5 Lumbar vertebrae and there are 3 or 4 carbon fiber cages to help hold it all together. I forget how many screws. I should get his x rays. They are metal as fuck.

Damn dude that sounds harsh as hell, I'm glad both you were able to come out alive. Mine involved 5 people in a Nissan Altima getting wrapped around a tree, and unfortunately only 4 of us made it out. Includingmy Ex-Wife who had to have what sounds like a near identical surgery to your father. Car accident's are the worst, I can only imagine how the EMT's feel when they get the call to those kinds of accidents (Conky I have the UTMOST respect for what you do.).

Wow that sounds really rough on him, I'm glad to hear that through out all of it he came out ahead and really made the best out of his life. Those are the kinds of stories that need to be out there to help stubborn people like myself make changes for the better. I just hope I don't get to that point before I'm able to get my surgery done. I know it won't but its still scary to think about.

Ancient Astronaught wrote:

skullservant wrote:DUDE LOADED BAKED POTATO! WITH BACON BITS AND SOUR CREAM AND CHEESE!

No fair!!!! Now I'm hungry!!!! but that does sound delicious right now......

deathmonkey wrote:Oof. My accident wasn't nearly that bad for me. My friend wrapped a beautiful 1969 Chevy nova SS around a tree on our way to school one morning(when the engine turned over after the accident it tour itself free of the motor mounts and ended up upside down in the engine compartment). It was just too wet out and the car was too powerful to control when we went around a corner. I don;t even remember most of that day apart from getting picked up and waking up after it happened. I had a concussion and jacked up back. I got lucky. After they cut us out, I walked out of the car. My friend who was driving broke both legs(compound fractures), hand and had to get tons of stitches. To top it off he was a hemophiliac, so it was rough. SOOOOO much blood.

My dad's surgery went really, really well. He was sort of stubborn and refused to get it looked at for years. By the time he had surgery he was driving a golf cart around the factory he worked because he couldn;t stand for more than an hour without his legs going numb. He had so many pinched nerves that he could barely walk. He'd come home from work, take a ton of pain killers and go to sleep at like 6pm. after the surgery, you'd never even be able to tell. My mom and him have been making up for lost time and go all over the world for vacation now. You can barely tell. It's sort of awesome to see him back to his old ass self. In the end the surgery fused (i think) L1-L4, He has rods supporting all 5 Lumbar vertebrae and there are 3 or 4 carbon fiber cages to help hold it all together. I forget how many screws. I should get his x rays. They are metal as fuck.

Damn dude that sounds harsh as hell, I'm glad both you were able to come out alive. Mine involved 5 people in a Nissan Altima getting wrapped around a tree, and unfortunately only 4 of us made it out. Includingmy Ex-Wife who had to have what sounds like a near identical surgery to your father. Car accident's are the worst, I can only imagine how the EMT's feel when they get the call to those kinds of accidents (Conky I have the UTMOST respect for what you do.).

Wow that sounds really rough on him, I'm glad to hear that through out all of it he came out ahead and really made the best out of his life. Those are the kinds of stories that need to be out there to help stubborn people like myself make changes for the better. I just hope I don't get to that point before I'm able to get my surgery done. I know it won't but its still scary to think about.

My dad has been an EMT/instructor my whole life. Craziest part of my accident is that He and my mom were going to eat breakfast together since she had the day off, and they heard the call go over, and my dad almost went to the call but decided to go to a different restaurant to avoid the accident. My mom would have been in the car with him had they kept with their original plan. I knew almost every EMT that came to the accident and it was crazy to see the realization in their eyes when they saw me. It all worked out. Sorry to hear yours was rough.

If you get to that point, the dude who did my dads surgery was awesome, in NJ, and accepted whatever insurance paid him and wrote the rest off. Awesome doctor.

That's hit about the back problems, core strength and resistance work using your own weight along with the right stretches works great for me. I find cycling fixed gear keeps my back in shape really well.

Can't afford to replace all the tubes in my Mace for a while so pulled two and have a nice 100W head now. Sounds great. Now just to pick up this Nolan head and get it working and I'll have a lovely selection of heads.

deathmonkey wrote:My dad has been an EMT/instructor my whole life. Craziest part of my accident is that He and my mom were going to eat breakfast together since she had the day off, and they heard the call go over, and my dad almost went to the call but decided to go to a different restaurant to avoid the accident. My mom would have been in the car with him had they kept with their original plan. I knew almost every EMT that came to the accident and it was crazy to see the realization in their eyes when they saw me. It all worked out. Sorry to hear yours was rough.

If you get to that point, the dude who did my dads surgery was awesome, in NJ, and accepted whatever insurance paid him and wrote the rest off. Awesome doctor.

Wow dude, that could have been alot worse mentaly for your parents then I'm sure it all ready was. I've been in accidents and new EMT's that showed up, it ain't easy for either side. It's all good on mine, its all in the past now.

I'm lucky enough that my mom work's at a surgeons office, if I end up needing to get surgery I should be in good hands.

Ancient Astronaught wrote:I've been through those programs before due to my herniated disc in my lower back. They've helped quite a bit and I've been trying to do some of the exercises that I learned, but this new injury is in my upper back (I believe between my t3/t4 discs) and I'm not sure how much the ones I know will help. Luckily for right now its mainly just causing major discomfort, no real "pain" but my pain threshold is so high now that I probably count a 4 on my scale as an 8 on other peoples. I definitely am going to start working out more and focusing on losing some weight to help balance myself out.

Yeah I don't think something like a McKenzie extension program will do much for the T spine but I figure a good core/shoulder strengthening program will do wonders to prevent that from getting worse and help decrease those neuro symptoms.

pelliott wrote:Yeah I don't think something like a McKenzie extension program will do much for the T spine but I figure a good core/shoulder strengthening program will do wonders to prevent that from getting worse and help decrease those neuro symptoms.

That's what I'm going to look into is a shoulder strengthening program, and definitely gonna work on my core. getting kinda tired of this beer belly i got anyways. I just want to find out exactly what the problem is first so I don't end up making it worse while trying to make it better.

conky wrote:Also, how do you marafakas multiquote? I haven't figured out how to do it yet.

Quote, copy it, keep browsing, paste, repeat. Kind of obnoxious, but gets the job done.

Ancient Astronaught wrote:I definitely know that feel bro, I was in a horrible car accident when I was 18 that netted me a crushed orbital socket and a 3 inch long fracture of my skull, and a multitude of back problems that wouldn't arise till many years later. I also have noticed some dramatic weight gain since I stopped playing drums, I went from 200 to 245 rather quickly, so I'm trying to use diet and exercise to get it back down to where i was. Being 6'4" I think 200lbs is a healthy weight (even though the doc says i should be 180 but i havent weighed that much since I quite the nose candy).

180 seems like it would be way too small if you are 6'4 unless that person had zero muscle mass. I'm 165-170 and 6'0 and I'm still skinny - of course I was like 155 before I started working out on a regular basis, but 180 still seems like a much more appropriate weight for a person my height instead of yours. Maybe it's your doctor who is on the booger sugar

t-rey wrote:180 seems like it would be way too small if you are 6'4 unless that person had zero muscle mass. I'm 165-170 and 6'0 and I'm still skinny - of course I was like 155 before I started working out on a regular basis, but 180 still seems like a much more appropriate weight for a person my height instead of yours. Maybe it's your doctor who is on the booger sugar

I was a gaunt stick at that weight, and every one told me I was too skinny, but that's the weight Kaiser said I should be at Like you said 180 is weight more for somebody of your height around 6' but doctors use alot of methods to convince you to lose weight. Hahahaha I don't think my doctor is on the booger sugar, maybe my "pharmacist" but not my doctor...

I work with a 6'7" african dude who weighs like 160, and whose doctor has him on a 5-6000 calorie a day diet just to maintain weight. It's gotta be rough being told to eat 5 full meals a day.

deathmonkey wrote:I work with a 6'7" african dude who weighs like 160, and whose doctor has him on a 5-6000 calorie a day diet just to maintain weight. It's gotta be rough being told to eat 5 full meals a day.

Wow, thats insane. Sounds like the bassist from Zoroaster.