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Re: billy corgan got slammed by vice

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:32 pm
by pigmaker
yeah that whole stunt was to promote his tea shop i think

double cassette mcis is pretty rad, honestly i grew up out in the sticks and mcis was maybe the first album i got on cd... i still have my old early 90s cassettes...lot of primus in there. primus was the shit

Re: billy corgan got slammed by vice

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:40 pm
by UglyCasanova
Got to love Billy Corgan. What a character. He's written some of my favourite music, so he gets a lot of free passes from me.

Re: billy corgan got slammed by vice

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:46 am
by BitchPudding
UglyCasanova wrote:Got to love Billy Corgan. What a character. He's written some of my favourite music, so he gets a lot of free passes from me.
Haven't seen him the same way since the whole Devi Ever incident.

Re: billy corgan got slammed by vice

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:14 am
by Iommic Pope
BitchPudding wrote: Haven't seen him the same way since the whole Devi Ever incident.
I had to Google what that incident was, as it had just flown past my radar at the time.
What an asshat.
Seriously.

Re: billy corgan got slammed by vice

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:25 am
by BitchPudding
Iommic Pope wrote:
BitchPudding wrote: Haven't seen him the same way since the whole Devi Ever incident.
I had to Google what that incident was, as it had just flown past my radar at the time.
What an asshat.
Seriously.
Yup.

I haven't been able to listen to much SP since.

Re: billy corgan got slammed by vice

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:50 am
by Iommic Pope
Yeah, that is horrendous.

Re: billy corgan got slammed by vice

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:03 am
by UglyCasanova
Yeah, that shit was uncalled for. But that's like disregarding the genius literature of Knut Hamsun because he supported the nazis, or Joseph Conrad for being racist (according to Chinua Achebe). Good art is good art. That is not to say that anything since Machina has been good art.

Re: billy corgan got slammed by vice

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:42 am
by rfurtkamp
To be fair, Devi often brought out the worst in people as well.

And I'm *no* fan of Mr. Corgan at all.

But...this wasn't a one-sided shitfest.

Re: billy corgan got slammed by vice

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:22 am
by goroth
True, but his comments say a lot about who he is, and I don't really like that.

Re: billy corgan got slammed by vice

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:59 pm
by rfurtkamp
I find it funny that I'm in any way defending Mr. Corgan but it's a case of age I suspect.

I don't get as worked up over stupid insults either but he's been throwing them at people for a couple decades plus now - just this time it hit close to home for a few folks.

I also don't think he grasped how far it would be taken in retrospect - keep in mind, again, age - older folks aren't internet saavy generally, and he's a sonofabitch who despite his stupid is a lot more tolerant than folks in his demographic usually are.

He also apologized if I recall.

Re: billy corgan got slammed by vice

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:07 pm
by D.o.S.
I mean, Lou Reed is one of my faves.

Re: billy corgan got slammed by vice

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:24 pm
by BitchPudding
Eh i guess.

I've been able to detach Melancoly and the Infinite Sadness from the dude just by accepting that Corgan today is bot the same man that made that album. Mostly cause that album aaved me from some dark stuff in high school.

But its still a shitty thing for him to say. At least he apologized i guess. Never really saw that.

Re: billy corgan got slammed by vice

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:23 pm
by pigmaker
rfurtkamp wrote:To be fair, Devi often brought out the worst in people as well.

And I'm *no* fan of Mr. Corgan at all.

But...this wasn't a one-sided shitfest.

i guess, but one person was a millionaire rockstar.

david and goliath isnt an extreme enough metaphor for that.



what did lou reed do?



my corgan story, quick version - went to one of the residency shows in ashville after they reunited (half the band)
billy acted like a fucking baby, hes a fucking baby, his attitude is shit, and i grew up worshiping this man, add in all the homophobic/transphobic/general assholeness/total shitty music for ages since the 90s and just fuck this man totally

No Billy! Don't open mouth, insert foot AGAIN!

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:36 am
by fuzzyoctaves
Oh Billy, why? I was able to look past everything until this: http://www.spin.com/articles/billy-corg ... interview/

I love Siamese Dream and rate it ahead of the overrated Nevermind, but Superunknown is superior to both in every way, particularly the songwriting.

Billy, please, do yourself a favor and stay out of the limelight until you figure out how to write new songs that are as good as the old ones.

Re: billy corgan got slammed by vice

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:29 am
by futuresailors
:lol: the comments