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Kayzer's got some cool sounds out of the Randy's Revenge. I don't know much about Ring Mod beyond listening to other people use it, though.

D.o.S. wrote:Kayzer's got some cool sounds out of the Randy's Revenge. I don't know much about Ring Mod beyond listening to other people use it, though.

That's pretty much my issue is that I have a basic understanding of what it does and other people do rad shit with them; I just have no clue if I'd actually use it. I want to spring for the full sized Moog for the LFO out/different carrier in, but that's way too much money for something idk if I'd use.

Ring Mod's are amazing. They get tricky when playing with other people or even when looping with yourself if you've got melodic lines unless you don't mind some serious dissonance. I have the big Moog and the little one as well as a few others that do ring mod and it's always great to add an expression pedal. The oscillator of the big Moog makes it really musical. Just twist the knobs till something sounds cool...add reverb, delay and some other fun pedals and it'll take you to new places. It can be tricky to get back to your favorite sounds though. The little Moog is great too for more straight forward ring mod. You can also use the big one for a pretty good sounding (though a little limited) trem.

I pugged my acoustic into a amp for the first time in a long time, such fun

louderthangod wrote:Ring Mod's are amazing. They get tricky when playing with other people or even when looping with yourself if you've got melodic lines unless you don't mind some serious dissonance. I have the big Moog and the little one as well as a few others that do ring mod and it's always great to add an expression pedal. The oscillator of the big Moog makes it really musical. Just twist the knobs till something sounds cool...add reverb, delay and some other fun pedals and it'll take you to new places. It can be tricky to get back to your favorite sounds though. The little Moog is great too for more straight forward ring mod. You can also use the big one for a pretty good sounding (though a little limited) trem.

Much truth in this post, even though I don't completely agree. I usually "tune" the ring mod to the root of the key we are playing in, by letting the note ring out and turning the carrier freq until it's the same. You can fairly play a pentatonic (without the blue note) and be safe from anything too clang-ey sounding. It'll add harmonics, depending on the ring mod you're using they will be more or less pronounced and prominent compared to your instrument. If you stray too far from the note you originally tuned to, it will be more and more like a robot puking into a tin can. This can be used to good effect in a band, if you are playing rhythmical more than melodical.
For drones I'd just back off the mix a little and let those weird noises run free in the background.

Me personally, I had some great fun with an envelope filter, a freeze, the timeline in the swell setting running into a loud and semi-dirty amp.

Thanks for all of the advice, I'm gonna look for a little Moog Ring Mod when I have the cash for sure. Unrelated, ran my microbrute through my bass vi pedalboard+a line 6 verbzilla earlier and had some pretty cool drones going.

digital delay textures

Crossposting 'cause I know some people don't leave The Doom Room: Come be a part of the ILF Drone Day Comp Thingy!

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Poor, sad drone thread. I've been learning how to record stuff on Logic recently and I'm mixing a couple of drone pieces. I'd like to put them up on a few places like Bandcamp, iTunes and the like but then it's a whole hassle of figuring out a name to call the project and to add artwork l. One thing I have discovered is that I love subharmonic synth plugins. I'm mainly using Lo-Air by Waves but on my tracks where I used some of the lower octaves of my POG2 it sounds massive. Anyways, I hope I can put something up in here by the end of next week.

A quick thing I did last night. My recording setup is still wonky, I'm pretty sure half of this is just overloading one of the mics. I'm not exclusively into the dro)))ne style of drone but I'm finally getting my rig dialed in so that's a possibility.

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louderthangod wrote:Poor, sad drone thread. I've been learning how to record stuff on Logic recently and I'm mixing a couple of drone pieces. I'd like to put them up on a few places like Bandcamp, iTunes and the like but then it's a whole hassle of figuring out a name to call the project and to add artwork l. One thing I have discovered is that I love subharmonic synth plugins. I'm mainly using Lo-Air by Waves but on my tracks where I used some of the lower octaves of my POG2 it sounds massive. Anyways, I hope I can put something up in here by the end of next week.

I'd really like to hear this. Even if it's just on something like Soundcloud with a placeholder name.

louderthangod wrote:Ring Mod's are amazing. They get tricky when playing with other people or even when looping with yourself if you've got melodic lines unless you don't mind some serious dissonance. I have the big Moog and the little one as well as a few others that do ring mod and it's always great to add an expression pedal. The oscillator of the big Moog makes it really musical. Just twist the knobs till something sounds cool...add reverb, delay and some other fun pedals and it'll take you to new places. It can be tricky to get back to your favorite sounds though. The little Moog is great too for more straight forward ring mod. You can also use the big one for a pretty good sounding (though a little limited) trem.

That's cool, I wasn't even sure what a ring mod does! Might have to check one out eventually. Right now, I'm looping rhythm and leads using the RM-1N (fucking love), Elements, Fat Fuzz Factory (this pedal really is the shit. just sayin.), wah, occasionally a DMM. Really getting a lot out of those in different combination. Actually rocking the Tele through a Blues Jr (Bilm) into a 2X12 that a friend made. Seemed like the Tele was from another time for a while but loving it these days.

Thanks for the cool ring mod write-up.

Here's a brief sound made one recent winter day:

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ridingeternity wrote:First and only step to good drone: Feel it.

this x1,000. WAY too many bands at the moment get caught up on acquiring the right gear or working on the right concept or whatever. I've seen Aidan Baker destroy most people with a delay, a flanger and a PA. Work within the limits of what you've got first, then worry about acquiring more stuff.

Like heaps of bong rattling amps are awesome and everything but yeah...the best way to do this music is to keep it really, really simple and really get inside every piece of equipment you have and work with what it can give you. Try getting something you like, then stripping away half the effects or layers and slowing it down even more, see where that takes you.

Exactly. It's like the traveling thing - whatever you buy there you are. I love gear, don't get me wrong, but it ain't the music. I can't speak to doom (or 'drone' for that matter), but just as a concept drone is fucking everywhere. Every repetition is a drone. Which is what I find myself...repeating endlessly.