When it comes to price you have to consider overheads etc. but also that "what's the highest price we can charge and still sell out each production run?" is usually involved tooweebles wrote:Probably, but the argument I've been playing with in my head (because I am genuinely interested in this) is that it's a cab sim that I don't have to plug in to my iPad or laptop, and I don't have to have a preamp pedal for, so it *TECHNICALLY* is two amp requirements in one (cab, amp), and counts as two pedals.echorec wrote:I wonder why it’s so much. My first thought is it’s because they licensed IRs and they’re paying significant fees for that.weebles wrote:I think it looks pretty interesting, but maybe not for $400?
2019 happenings (Summer NAMM p.90)
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The Eccos from Keeley is finally finished. It's inspired by tape flanging, reel-to-reel recording, and delay units. (not to be confused with their earlier Binson-inspired Echoes pedal)
It's going to be available November 29th at $249 street, so it may be excluded from this year's BF specials.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR1r3lla7tQ[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR1r3lla7tQ

This may be of interest to some, as Keeley says they're using the "Quad 24/56-bit Dream DSP." I don't think I've ever seen any other manufacturers disclose that they were using Dream. The FV-1 & Sharc chips are mentioned all the time, but I wonder how many other builders are already making use of them. I imagine they're talking about this manufacturer.
https://www.dream.fr/
It's going to be available November 29th at $249 street, so it may be excluded from this year's BF specials.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR1r3lla7tQ[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR1r3lla7tQ

This may be of interest to some, as Keeley says they're using the "Quad 24/56-bit Dream DSP." I don't think I've ever seen any other manufacturers disclose that they were using Dream. The FV-1 & Sharc chips are mentioned all the time, but I wonder how many other builders are already making use of them. I imagine they're talking about this manufacturer.
https://www.dream.fr/
Dream® continuously develops new dedicated DSP’s and Firmware for electronic musical instruments, Karaoke equipment, effect devices….and much more.
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Expressive E (makers of the touché) are preparing to unveil a new MIDI keyboard. All signs point to this being a dynamic, poly MPE controller. Hopefully this new instrument breaks through, where others came up short.
https://www.instagram.com/expressive_e/
https://www.expressivee.com/coming-soon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14-GErsTJEw
I've briefly demoed the touché, and it was surprisingly robust. I expected it to be quite sensitive, but it was actually a bit resistant to touch. You'd definitely need time to get used to interacting with it and mastering the multi-directional format of it. ---That really isn't a bad thing. I'd prefer it to be slightly stiff, rather than too loose and wobbly.
https://www.instagram.com/expressive_e/
https://www.expressivee.com/coming-soon
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14-GErsTJEw[/youtube]This brand new instrument is the result of an exceptional partnership with @hakenaudio
Over the past few months, the Expressive E team has been discreetly on the road asking many talented musicians to test this new instrument and give their feedback.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14-GErsTJEw
I've briefly demoed the touché, and it was surprisingly robust. I expected it to be quite sensitive, but it was actually a bit resistant to touch. You'd definitely need time to get used to interacting with it and mastering the multi-directional format of it. ---That really isn't a bad thing. I'd prefer it to be slightly stiff, rather than too loose and wobbly.
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Here's some more sounds. No word on the price. It's definitely more than a drone synth, but I'm quite confused by the conceptual layout. With all the little cartridge slots, does that mean you can apply an isolated effect bank to each OSC section? I love that it's not another clone or vanilla synth, but so far the overall format baffles me.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W5hXuljJx0[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W5hXuljJx0
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W5hXuljJx0[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W5hXuljJx0
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Holy shit, that's tasty.echorec wrote:The Eccos from Keeley is finally finished. It's inspired by tape flanging, reel-to-reel recording, and delay units. (not to be confused with their earlier Binson-inspired Echoes pedal)
It's going to be available November 29th at $249 street, so it may be excluded from this year's BF specials.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR1r3lla7tQ[/youtube]
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So, it's basically a Strymon Deco but in a smaller enclosure and for less money and with a phrase sampler?
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My initial guess would be a keyboard with lateral vibrato, so another idea modified from the ondes Martenot. But since they partnered with Hakko, maybe there's using the tech from the continuum keyboard to get polyphonic aftertouch?echorec wrote:Expressive E (makers of the touché) are preparing to unveil a new MIDI keyboard. All signs point to this being a dynamic, poly MPE controller. Hopefully this new instrument breaks through, where others came up short.
https://www.instagram.com/expressive_e/
https://www.expressivee.com/coming-soon
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14-GErsTJEw[/youtube]This brand new instrument is the result of an exceptional partnership with @hakenaudio
Over the past few months, the Expressive E team has been discreetly on the road asking many talented musicians to test this new instrument and give their feedback.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14-GErsTJEw
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(can't remember if an earlier demo was shared on the board or not)
https://reverb.com/item/27523339-janis- ... ting-delay
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw2t2BcqUpw[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw2t2BcqUpw

https://reverb.com/item/27523339-janis- ... ting-delay
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw2t2BcqUpw[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw2t2BcqUpw
No blend, so it's ideal for noise, unless you want to castrate it with an FX loop.Skaļums – The pedals master volume
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Atkārto – Feedback for Delay
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In typical what-the-fuck-Japan news, the Swinger is being reissued in limited numbers. Unfortunately for all you Swinger fans, I don't think you can buy these internationally. You may be waiting another 50 years to get your hands on one. Why reissue the Swinger now? I would have to speculate it has something to do with Naruhito's recent visitation with the sun goddess.


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Those look like a weird rebranding of Warlock guitars? Like if they did a kids brand or something?
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Or...01010111 wrote:Those look like a weird rebranding of Warlock guitars? Like if they did a kids brand or something?
Warlock guitars are like a goth dad version of CBS' reject models.
What's really crazy is that CBS (that CBS) briefly owned Fender, Buchla, and the New York Yankees at the same time. The story goes that they controlled the rights to the 100 series for roughly one year, before deciding synthesizers weren't commercially viable.
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Does anyone know the deal with the #BLACKEDXOUT thing that a ton of builders are posting? Looks like possibly a Black Friday thing with black on black graphics?
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I was thinking it was a boycott of black Friday or something but I saw Earthquaker post it and they never miss out on these type of sales. I would be very stoked if you were correct!whoismarykelly wrote:Does anyone know the deal with the #BLACKEDXOUT thing that a ton of builders are posting? Looks like possibly a Black Friday thing with black on black graphics?
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My initial guess was charity fundraiser. ---It seems like an odd move to combat holiday hype with hype, in the form of a mysterious social media maneuver. 
(and shouldn't there be a line through the 'B', if you're opposed?)

https://www.instagram.com/p/B5BBPQuJPXJ/
Here's Lone Wolf Audio's post:
...but for some companies, it may also be a matter of solidarity & wanting to avoid putting added pressure on their peers' businesses.
---Doesn't really bother me if several companies follow LWA's example. I don't want to put together a coupon directory anyway.
(and shouldn't there be a line through the 'B', if you're opposed?)

https://www.instagram.com/p/B5BBPQuJPXJ/
Here's Lone Wolf Audio's post:
Considering the crunch of Jackass' tariffs, I know a lot of US companies are losing money in 2019, that they weren't losing in 2016. So I don't see this necessarily as a universal boycott of BF, so much as a matter of not being able to absorb the extra discounting, due to slimmer margins from added import costs.If you are waiting for a deal on black friday or cyber Monday , don’t, there won’t be one. I’m standing against it this year. I will have a few LTD colorway versions of pedals , a few sold out models will be back available for order soon , but otherwise , no. Our product, is worth the asking price , and that’s what they cost. We appreciate everyone’s support as always , thanks for making what we do possible.
...but for some companies, it may also be a matter of solidarity & wanting to avoid putting added pressure on their peers' businesses.
---Doesn't really bother me if several companies follow LWA's example. I don't want to put together a coupon directory anyway.
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Considering that LWA is the only company to post an explanation, Im guessing they aren’t officially involved. Unless dude likes to be the one to spill the beans on something everyone else has obviously agreed to keep mum on for now.