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Re: Luck Duck Pedals - no refunds, 8 Bit Duck is shite

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:19 pm
by behndy
i'm probably going to say "if it sounds way better i'd like to do a video to show the difference and explain what happened" too.

i mean, this all started because i was under the assumption this was a functioning correctly, just horribly designed pedal. because that's what he told me. i feel bad having something out there saying "this piece of shit sounds like THIS PIECE OF SHIT" if it's based off a fucked box.

Deltz - lol. yah. well, i think this whole situation is going to be costly or at least has the potential to cost him business, even if there's any cleanup i do after the fact/to explain how things worked out. so.... i'm not a vindictive guy. i wasn't trying to hurt him...... yeah. urf.

Re: Luck Duck Pedals - no refunds, 8 Bit Duck is shite

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:23 pm
by Deltaphoenix
You did what anyone would have done with the information you had and treatment you received.

Seriously dude was a dick, he changed his website to be able to back his side up with the paypal dispute. He was ready to fuck you. Any fallout that he receives is his own fault. If you didn't have a strong presence on a few forums he wouldn't be offering all of this.
So I still say FUCK HIM. Take your money back and tell him to shove that pedal up his ass.



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Re: Luck Duck Pedals - no refunds, 8 Bit Duck is shite

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:27 pm
by ChetMagongalo
I mean idk why it took him so long but it seems to me he's trying to make things right. Why not let him? What he did was wrong, but everyone makes mistakes

Re: Luck Duck Pedals - no refunds, 8 Bit Duck is shite

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:35 pm
by Deltaphoenix
This guy is only changing his tune because of blowback since we all love Behndy. It wan't an honest mistake. If it was someone that didn't have a voice that people listen to (a sexy voice at that), then they would just be fucked by Luck Duck dude. BEHNDY HAS FRIENDS THAT GIVE A SHIT. I wrote shit all over his facebook page (after seeing Jammy did it), TalkBass is talking about it too.
I wish Sousa was on this thread.

The guy is now trying to kiss Behndy's ass because he fucked up bad, treated a customer really unprofessionally.

Re: Luck Duck Pedals - no refunds, 8 Bit Duck is shite

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:42 pm
by behndy
i agree with you about most of that, and also, D'AWWWWWWW. you make me blush and feel all tingly.

but..... Chet's right, at this point he's trying to make it better. it might be to cover his ass (probably), it might be because he's now realizing how he shouldn't treat people (less likely)... so. i don't like being douchey if i can help it. if he there's even a little chance he IS honestly trying to change something he did wrong for the right reasons, i don't want to throw it back in his face.

and this is such a minuscule point in this whole blow up, but i do feel a little odd trashing somebody's work based off a broken pedal. granted, he told me it was ok so.... that's more on him then me. but if he does a better design (or the current design sounds way better when functioning properly), i'd feel more comfy having a vid out there showing that as well.

ugh. this shit is a silly, silly mess.

Re: Luck Duck Pedals - no refunds, 8 Bit Duck is shite

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:44 pm
by ChetMagongalo
I didn't know that. I would still take the offer though. Not sure what I would do with the replacement pedal. I don't think you owe him a new demo though Ben, not that he's even asking. I wouldn't do him any favors personally. I would just accept the refund and if anyone wants to know what happened they should read this thread

Re: Luck Duck Pedals - no refunds, 8 Bit Duck is shite

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:46 pm
by Chankgeez
Deltaphoenix wrote:The guy is now trying to kiss Behndy's ass because he fucked up bad, treated a customer really unprofessionally.


Good, the guy should be trying to kiss behndy's ass.

Even if it wasn't an honest mistake, at least he's trying to make things better now.

Hopefully he's learned something.

Re: Luck Duck Pedals - no refunds, 8 Bit Duck is shite

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:50 pm
by Deltaphoenix
Yeah it is silly in the grand scheme of things. At least you aren't getting screwed out of money. I see that you did what I would have done, which is tell everybody when he said it wasn't broke and no refund for you.
I just hate when people get treated bad by businesses, especially friends.
Businesses lives and die by their rep, as well as a whole lot more.
And like you said, so many small builders put their heart and soul into their pedals and having happy customers that I was shocked by this guy.

Still, I WILL NEVER BUY ANY OF HIS PEDALS, I think we saw his true colors.

Re: Luck Duck Pedals - no refunds, 8 Bit Duck is shite

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:51 pm
by Deltaphoenix
Chankgeez wrote:
Deltaphoenix wrote:The guy is now trying to kiss Behndy's ass because he fucked up bad, treated a customer really unprofessionally.


Good, the guy should be trying to kiss behndy's ass.

Even if it wasn't an honest mistake, at least he's trying to make things better now.

Hopefully he's learned something.


I agree. My point was that I think Behndy shouldn't feel bad about taking a free pedal from the dude.

Re: Luck Duck Pedals - no refunds, 8 Bit Duck is shite

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:52 pm
by MEC
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Re: Luck Duck Pedals - no refunds, 8 Bit Duck is shite

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:53 pm
by bodyisajerk
:thumb: Behndy gets a proper pedal, the public is aware of a shady character.all is right with the world! Thanks internet. :thumb:

Re: Luck Duck Pedals - no refunds, 8 Bit Duck is shite

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:39 am
by behndy
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lol. i love you.

shit. my biological diddy (we call him The Sperm Donor) DID run out on me when i was 4. is that.... is that where all this anger comes from?

.... probably not. my real father has been there since i was born.

urrrrrf. yeah. i don't want free shit off of him. i don't want to take anything down, because he did what he did until he did what he.... did. FUCK. i am a gawd damn WORDSMITH.

but i'm not trying to profit off of a fucked up situation, i just wanted to get them deets out there? it feels more... right this way i think. and i am a RIDICULOUSLY selfish person. i do almost everything i do because it makes me happy. i'm just lucky i had good parents that raised me to get off on doing the right thing. i'm like 4 unnecessary beatings and a week of neglect away from being a psycopath.

lol. but yesh. i have no interest in owning his stuff. he burned that bridge. there's way too many builders that do stuff the right way from jump so.... yeah.

Re: Luck Duck Pedals - no refunds, 8 Bit Duck is shite

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:56 am
by Chankgeez
Deltaphoenix wrote:
I agree. My point was that I think Behndy shouldn't feel bad about taking a free pedal from the dude.


Yeah, the guy's trying to repair his reputation.

behndy shouldn't feel bad about accepting a free pedal. And if behndy likes the pedal, that's good for the dude's reputation.

Re: Luck Duck Pedals - no refunds, 8 Bit Duck is shite

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 1:10 am
by behndy
yeah. it feels....... too much like being bought off to stop bitching about the whole situation? i don't know if that's his intention, but it's how it feels.

so i sent off a response, told him pretty much what i said, i'm not interested in a free pedal, just a refund. f

Re: Luck Duck Pedals - no refunds, 8 Bit Duck is shite

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 1:13 am
by dubkitty
I believe that everyone should get at least one chance to redeem themselves before you write them off...otherwise you're sentencing them to be an asshole forever. olive branch is olive-branchy.