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gordian knot wrote:

IMO, there's really nothing more to be said that adds anything new to the entire scenario. It's just a rehash of old Devi themes.

and that's where we differ in our opinions. I think it's good to keep track of it and it's not like Devi gives the most accurate information out there.

I don't disagree, definitely good to keep track of things.

I meant that it seems a lot of us aren't really interested in anything Devi has to say anymore, accurate or not.

What are you trying to accomplish by giving a running commentary on whatever Devi's spouting?

honestly dude every time you post 'hi devi' it creeps me the fuck out

Chankgeez wrote:
I don't disagree, definitely good to keep track of things.

I meant that it seems a lot of us aren't really interested in anything Devi has to say anymore, accurate or not.

What are you trying to accomplish by giving a running commentary on whatever Devi's spouting?

I got what you meant, a lot of us might not care...they don't have to click on it. They can read other threads. Those that do care, can click.

I already mentioned what I'm trying to accomplish. I mean the first part of it you just restated "definitely good to keep track of things". I find that a running commentary is a pretty low-drag way of doing that and lays it out in a timeline. and one that Devi can't delete and revise the history.
There's also the maybe saving someone some time/money/hassle. There's the correcting the misinformation when she cowboys the facts to "rally the base".

I think all that stuff is valid. I get that you don't care and the easiest thing to do since you don't care is just for you to read other threads. Just don't open this thread. it's not hard, just click a different thread instead. There are some pretty good ones for whatever DOES interest you

resincum wrote:honestly dude every time you post 'hi devi' it creeps me the fuck out

yeah, she's stalking the forum even after being banned. You do get that she's reading this, right?

You know what creeps me out?

There's really no difference between what Devi was using this forum for and what you are using this forum for then -- increased visibility to highlight the existence of your pet cause. Feels icky regardless of who's doing it. At least you're not trying to sell us ebows.

Like, why not set up a Tumblr or something?

A: Because then you'd have to put in the effort of doing so, and it wouldn't be seen by so many people.

Follow up response:

so how about this thread gets locked and from now on any mention is "she who will not be named?" Too harry potter?

I watch her because I think she's a fuckin' train wreck and a sociopath that just keep giving little nuggets of entertainment.

So Tom, the choice is yours... Lock it or leave it?

D.o.S. wrote:There's really no difference between what Devi was using this forum for and what you are using this forum for then

more specifically me using this thread is doing what devi is doing : Presenting a side of some shady business and it's place where people can read about it. I'm not the only one posting about it.

But I don't think my thread on chromatic keyboards is doing what Devi was doing.
I don't think my talking about the new Roland 300 synth pedal is
My talking about old cheesy organs. I don't think that has much to do with Devi at all.
getting better bass response out of a phase. nope. not devi-like

D.o.S. wrote:A: Because then you'd have to put in the effort of doing so, and it wouldn't be seen by so many people.

yeah, like I said, this is low drag way of tracking and it might save some people some time/money/hassle and maybe give a different side to the trashing the folks at dwarfcraft.

D.o.S. wrote: Follow up response:

hey if you don't care, you don't have to read.
I mean it's a little creepy to actively post "I don't care". seems a little disingenuous

I'm not saying you don't contribute to the community overall, I just think this thread is starting to get a little OG Uncle Grandfather-ian and it should be fairly obvious why posters would say something about it as it continues to degrade into your one way communication with someone who doesn't actually post on the site.

D.o.S. wrote:I'm not saying you don't contribute to the community overall,

but the thing is, you did. You said my use of the forum, not just the thread and that's kind of insulting man.

I just think this thread is starting to get a little OG Uncle Grandfather-ian and it should be fairly obvious why posters would say something about it.

I don't know that slang. I don't know if your making fun of me because I'm not as young as a lot of guys here - I'm hoping your not.


But either way even that would be different than not caring, the "I don't care" seems a little creepily disingenuous. If you care you care. I care about stuf


So I care about people getting fucked over. and I care about people being lied about and I don't think it's too cool to cowboy the facts just to "rally the base".
and that's fuddy duddy or something?

Fair enough, apologies for the offense.

Context: when Uncle Grandfather first started posting here he would post like 15-16 photos of his gear (and youtube links to what he was listening to) every day with absolutely no community interaction at all.

gordian knot wrote: I get that you don't care and the easiest thing to do since you don't care is just for you to read other threads. Just don't open this thread. it's not hard, just click a different thread instead.

It's not quite that simple. This's a more loaded subject than something like "What's the best transparent overdrive for doom?"

Confuzzled wrote:so how about this thread gets locked and from now on any mention is "she who will not be named?" Too harry potter?

...

So Tom, the choice is yours... Lock it or leave it?

That's not really how ILF works.

gordian knot wrote: yeah, like I said, this is low drag way of tracking and it might save some people some time/money/hassle and maybe give a different side to the trashing the folks at dwarfcraft.

I think Devi's shenanigans have been well enough documented by this point (both here and elsewhere).

(Also, people who know the "folks at Dwarfcraft" don't believe anything Devi is saying about them.)

Guys… don't get pulled into the overall bad vibes that go along with the topic at hand and squabble…

we're good. I appreciate you working through that with me.

That dude is that dude. I'm not that dude

here's the thing, well two things.
We post what we know and/or care about. Well, I know about some of here lies and I know a little bit about some of the things she's misrepresenting (some of it is just her negligently spouting stuff she doesn't know much about - but it's misinforming people)

The other thing is I tend to keep my eye on people who aren't trustworthy. The people who are trustworthy, you don't have to keep your eye on em. They aren't going to fuck peopleover just because nobody's watching.
She's not living up to her promises, she lies about people and erases the evidence and she shits on dwarfcraft almost daily (just as an example -- she had been bitching about dwarfcraft not paying her this month. right? ok, But what was the due date of the payment? were they past due? )
So yeah, I do, I keep my eye on it.


we just disagree on it, and that's OK
I keep it in this one thread that's about that.

gordian knot wrote:getting better bass response out of a phase. nope. not devi-likes

Please do not cloud the true deity of all things electronic devices that which is Bob Moog

Chankgeez wrote:

gordian knot wrote: I get that you don't care and the easiest thing to do since you don't care is just for you to read other threads. Just don't open this thread. it's not hard, just click a different thread instead.

It's not quite that simple. This's a more loaded subject than something like "What's the best transparent overdrive for doom?"

It'd only be a more loaded subject if you cared. So for the "a lot of us" that don't care it's not loaded, they don't care
if you don't care it's not loaded at all....because you don't care. That's what the caring is


For those that do. yeah it's a loaded subject and it's not as simple as Devi makes it out that Dwarfcraft 'ripped her life's work' from her.
and it's not that simple that people are just 'being shitty' or 'transphobic' because she's not living up to obligations.
non-compete agreements are more complex than she's making it out to be with "no judge in their right mind..."

Chankgeez wrote:I think Devi's shenanigans have been well enough documented by this point (both here and elsewhere).

but I don't think that and that's where we disagree. I think it's ongoing. So I make my posts.
No biggie, we just disagree on that. I'm not going to ask you to post on it or even read it

Chankgeez wrote: (Also, people who know the "folks at Dwarfcraft" don't believe anything Devi is saying about them.)

But it isn't just the people who know the folks at dwarfcraft who might come across this.