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JTurbide wrote:

Strange Tales wrote:I also have some cheap cases available in my BST thread as well.

Thanks but shipping to MTL, customs fees and currency ... no thanks

pittsburgh desktop case can be found for like $150 but you'll surely want to expand off that.. the tiptop happy ending kit is probably your best bet i think.


also erb verb is the tits, I think it's totally worth the plunge if you don't have a space anymore


I missed out on the as LFO by a couple of bucks

DOS, does the formant filter make any oscillator sound like a drone commander?

It can, but not straight out of the box.

What makes the DC cool, right, is the way the second LFO (the pulse waveform) layers on top of the first LFO (the triangle to square? oscillator before going into the filter, so if I was going to replicate that, I'd need two synched VCOs that would run into the formant (You could also have the "pulse"/LFO manipulating one or more of the parameters on the formant as long as it was still synched to VCO 1 in one of the multipliers that the original DC had, I suppose).

When I get back to my gear I'll try to create this sort of thing and provide some clips, but it won't be for a couple of weeks

Thanks guys, I'll probably en up with a happy ending. Also, the M-32 can be put on the side as a stand alone to fit more modules in the happy ending so it should be plenty of space

UglyCasanova wrote:Help a noob out, plz!

Okay, so getting a MS-20 Mini made me want MOAR, so I'm thinking about getting a little 3U 104HP to sit on top of the MS for even more versatility. My problem is, I know NOTHING about what utility tools I should have, just all the fun stuff. Here are things I think look fun on paper. If you can, let me know what else I would need, don't need, any less complex/expensive alternatives, other modules that would be more interesting etc. Maybe some sort of sequencer thingy?

WMD/SSF Quad attenuator would be a life saver here. Also, Peaks. Look at the Erica Synths Pico modules too, but be warned, that will draw you in deeper and probably make you add another row at some point.

UC:

I would saw it kind of depends on the way you want to go....

If you want to integrate more with existing instruments, I would look at trigger/gate manipulation, logic, comparators, and preamps/mixers (along with more modulation).

If you want to stick to the subtractive side, more envelopes, LFOs, another filter possibly.

Drones, more LFOs and stuff to add movement.

I don't believe that the MS-20 has an osc out (don't remember fully), but if you can get the oscillators out for processing, a waveshaper would be good (there are a ton).

More VCAs are a must throughout though.

Sequencing isnt that important overall. A quantizer is a good call (I suggest Toppobrillo Quantimator for its shift register and chording neatness...and it is a quick arp). This would be pre english tear so that you can turn any voltage into a quantified pitch. the Korg SQ-1 kinda solves this though.

I think MN Function would be good because it can be a lot of things and will add a S&H/T&H. Microbe Meta Sequencer can be an unquantized sequencer, a stored random with slipping values, an stepped LFO, etc. RYO has some neat devices to look at that will add some versatility (they have a different take on something like the meta sequencer,,, just knobs and can jump to any value like a stored voltage source and the 2xVCX would add a ringmod/crossfader/two VCAs).

A lot of the DIY kits by companies like RYO are fairly easy.

I think Shades or AT-AT-AT could take care of atten, mixing, and inverting needs as alternatives to ST's suggestion of blinds.

I wouldn't worry too much about multiples if you have some stacked cables due to your voltage conversion at english tear.

I agree the verb is the least needed. I think you could find some better/smaller alternatives to the pitts delay....but it isn't that needed overall (4ms dual looping, chronoblob, etc).

D.o.S. wrote:Also November your BST has me looking long and hard at my 4046. Just sayin'.

Do it!

How many of you folks are rocking the microbrute as a controller for your modulars? I'm thinking about picking one up because it ticks a lot of my boxes for a flexible sequencer, and having some extra synth goodies to play with never sounds like a bad idea to me.

Keystep > microbrute as a controller

I'm of the opinion these days that it is more worth it to have patience and stop buy a whole bunch of cheap options and just have a long term option that I totally dig. If I could go back, I wouldn't have bought the keystep or microbrute (and a bunch of other things) and just saved for a few more months until I had enough for the futureretro.

The new futureretro drum module looks awesome.

D.o.S. wrote:It can, but not straight out of the box.

What makes the DC cool, right, is the way the second LFO (the pulse waveform) layers on top of the first LFO (the triangle to square? oscillator before going into the filter, so if I was going to replicate that, I'd need two synched VCOs that would run into the formant (You could also have the "pulse"/LFO manipulating one or more of the parameters on the formant as long as it was still synched to VCO 1 in one of the multipliers that the original DC had, I suppose).

When I get back to my gear I'll try to create this sort of thing and provide some clips, but it won't be for a couple of weeks

juicy.. I could definitely pull that off. tempting

I'm surprised I don't see the DC2e mentioned more (here or elsewhere). that thing sounds fucking amazing!!

lordgalvar wrote: More VCAs are a must throughout though.

mannnnnn I barely learned you can use VCAs for CV I was like why does everyone want so many mixers... this changes everything

basically the first rule: you can never have too many VCAs

Sidenote I still don't understand how to use the A-147 for anything other than LFo patterns even though I accidentally wired up the delay once and it was really rad.

And I think the DC2E, like the formant filter, was a really small run compared to the Drone Commander (which there are only like 300-400 anyway, I believe), so there just aren't that many out there. Also, no triangle wave form is pretty brutal for people looking to capture similar tones to the first.

Taking a quick look at the Doepfer page:
http://www.doepfer.de/a1472.htm

The VCA portion automatically has the Tri wave normalled into the VCA, so you can patch any of the other LFOs into the CV OR Delay Reset jack. Delay reset controls the Delay triggering (which decays as set by the Delay knob). Delay knob is also normalled to the CV jack as well. So you can definitely do some cool self-attenuation using that module.

Also looks like the CV can be Polarized as well by the switch settings.

Hopefully that made sense.

Don't forget about those Malekko grooveboxes that are on the way...they are going to be nicely equipped for some eurorack boogie

Strange Tales wrote:Taking a quick look at the Doepfer page:
http://www.doepfer.de/a1472.htm

The VCA portion automatically has the Tri wave normalled into the VCA, so you can patch any of the other LFOs into the CV OR Delay Reset jack. Delay reset controls the Delay triggering (which decays as set by the Delay knob). Delay knob is also normalled to the CV jack as well. So you can definitely do some cool self-attenuation using that module.

Also looks like the CV can be Polarized as well by the switch settings.

Hopefully that made sense.

Yeah see that's the shit that makes my brain glaze over and my eyes bleed. Mostly because I am never looking at it when I'm actually using the module, because that would be too easy.

I mean the easiest way to boil it down to is: With nothing plugged into inputs you have two Triangle waves. One coming out the Tri shape, and the other coming out of the "Out" jack. That out jack is controlled by the Decay knob, and it can be further controlled by the switches next to it.