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Gone Fission wrote:My big problem with the Ringmaster is that I still don’t fully get the operating principles. Everything I find ends up being accidental. Without a method of attack, I would have been better off with a Frequency Analyzer or Minifooger. But I’ll keep at it. Maybe some dedicated woodshedding time would help.

I totally agree with this. It’s a great sounding pedal and a “tweakers delight” but tbqh I think they added too many knobs to make it functional. The “intelligent ring mod” is a great idea. But they could have ditched a couple of knobs entirely or made them switches (like sine/square wave) and the blend/volume pots are confusing as fuck.

I think my main issue is there is too much crammed into a tiny package and knobs that need access (like the frequency) are the bottom pot and hard to switch on the fly. Plus the type is impossible to read. I found I was always using a flashlight as my basement is not well lit. That told me that there were too many options.

As opposed to the Moogerfooget which is cleanly laid out and easy to use, and the Randy which is so simple. Those two are staying and the Ringmaster goes.

Been a while since I've seen one of these for sale:



https://reverb.com/item/35477543-noahsa ... -modulator

that's a nice one

retinal orbita wrote:I’ve decided to sell my Pigtronix Ringmaster. Too many concentric knobs, a goofy adapter and not enough bang for the buck.

I recently had a change in attitude with regard to "bang for the buck," and it was all to do with the Ringmaster. I got one for ~$150 and spent the next two weeks trying all kinds of things with it. The main interesting feature for me is the pitch-following CV out, which is probably old hat to synth users but for me it's a new thing. I plugged it into everything I could think of, with results that were always wild and occasionally musical. I also tried various things with the carrier in/out jack. At the end of it all, I found the 18v power supply and the fact that the pedal gets so hot after a while to be disturbing. The apparently un-dial-outable snapping sound at the note attack was annoying, too--playing with a heavy hand helped, but I'm not going to change my whole style for a pedal. Getting a nice clean tremolo sound is impossible with that snapping sound. I imagine it's something to do with the pitch detection...? Like there's a compressor in there, or it's an artifact of conversion to square wave. It helped to think of the pedal as more like a PLL. I was able to get a nicer sound by boosting my guitar signal and sending into the carrier-in jack, but that created a rat's nest of cables and seemed like a lot of work for a modest outcome.

Anyway, the point is that even though I don't think I like the pedal that much I feel like I got $150 worth of education and entertainment out of it. And I'm keeping it for the pitch-CV thing.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVV4WQeUCBE[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVV4WQeUCBE

Vintage EHX in action

Nice.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3NDyD8WluY[/youtube]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3NDyD8WluY

If you have a small fortune to spend, the lovetone Ring Stinger seems pretty insane....I spied it amongst the heaps of pedals that Oren Ambarchi piled onto a table during a performance in New York back in February. Although it's not like you can tell what he's actually using to get his sounds.

Ring Mod is one of my favorite sounds....I had a Gonkulator for about a year but ended up flipping it, I wasn't crazy about the Grunge circuit and the carrier tone was super loud on mine if you cranked up the blend on the ring mod side of the pedal. I got the MF Ring moogerfooger and fell for it instantly, the sound is perfect and the pedal is super quiet in terms of background hum. I don't even use the expression pedal option with it, I've found that ring mod is an effect you have to play around or through because it changes the whole sound of the instrument. To me it's not something you can tweak into submission. It's a great effect to use if you want to think more in terms of rhythm.

loved the warmup lap, lg

t_b_u - Ring Stinger is really fully featured, but I've found the "tone" is not as much to my liking as some of the others you'll see touted in this thread, but that's a personal thing. Really like the MF Ring and the now-with-more-unobtainium OG Moog RM. I agree with your comments re: usage generally, but I'm also finding it useful to mix the effect down further for some less-overwhelming effects. Not all RMs have a clean mix available, though.... Stick around: more RM/FM fanatix always welcome here

Dandolin wrote:.... Stick around: more RM/FM fanatix always welcome here

Ring stinger is dope yeah, but I also do not really dig the base tone a whole lot, and the tone knob is basically worthless imo.

Still loving the ringworm.. and the EPFM Ring mod.

Anyone still rocking an Outer Rings ?

Just curious: how's the ring mod ("quadrature") section on the Strymon Mobius? i'm not in the market for expensive and huge modulation units but i read that it also does +/- freq shifting, which whould be ideal for some great bell/metallic tones and overtones.

BetterOffShred wrote:Ring stinger is dope yeah, but I also do not really dig the base tone a whole lot, and the tone knob is basically worthless imo.

Still loving the ringworm.. and the EPFM Ring mod.

Anyone still rocking an Outer Rings ?

Thought I saw that he upgraded the Outer Rings circuit recently? I actually enjoyed when I tried it out, but I could see why people who were hoping to get cleaner "bell" tones were disappointed v-that one is for the noize boyz.

Is the EPFM based on a Craig Anderton circuit? I've got a Mooseapotamus which I think is basically the CA, and I really like that one.

Dowi wrote:Just curious: how's the ring mod ("quadrature") section on the Strymon Mobius? i'm not in the market for expensive and huge modulation units but i read that it also does +/- freq shifting, which whould be ideal for some great bell/metallic tones and overtones.

- never tried, but I agree with the premise of the second half of your statement. And Strymon would be one to count on to harness the algo for max "cleanliness" I used to say I'd be interested in a stand-alone quadrature box from Strymon, but now I'm more patient/loaded with hoarded balanced mod. devices, so idk....

Dandolin wrote:I used to say I'd be interested in a stand-alone quadrature box from Strymon, but now I'm more patient/loaded with hoarded balanced mod. devices, so idk....

I'd love to have a stand-alone quadrature box, with presets etc. It would be the first time I could be really interested in dropping some money on a strymon.

Yeah Craig Anderson wrote EPFM

nice