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Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:21 pm
by Barnhard
That bad huh? At this price there's really nothing stopping me from swapping out the speakers later. I might see if I can pickup another one for a similar price, split my rig into treble and bass components. Is the treble really that prominent on these things?

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:29 pm
by D.o.S.
Iommic Pope wrote:I second everything everyone said about lyrics. I used to handle vocal duties and conk is right, it's a shit responsibility. It's good to hear I'm not the only one utilizing these tactics, but it's nice to have a big bag of tricks to pull from. I gotta say though, cogniscent, hyper-sexualised breakfast serial does sound like mike Patton should be involved somewhere.

Summit, your jam space sounds like fucking doom Mecca man. Hopefully one day I'm gonna have some scratch to travel with, and I can plug into the guest rig you got there.

I got to jam. With one of my mates on the weekend. I have some great friends. He lent me his hiwatt t10 practice head and a cab while the sovtek is out so I can get back to playing at home. He warned me it loved effects, but hated dirt. He was right. It's fairly stiff and brittle sounding when clean, but basically gets real tinny when you blast it with dirt. Usually, I try and dial in the treble and mids for cut and clarity on my pedals and guit, but I find myself cranking all the tone knobs down to tame it. It seems to be more ok with the tones dark and wooly. I put an at in the preamp instead of the ax, didn't make too much difference. Might be the shitty ruby el84 though. Fuck I hate rubies. I don't care though it's good to make noise again.
I played through his 80s Marshall 800, got to bust out the ape blaster at decent volumes, couldn't get the black forest to sound how it usually does for me on that rig, but paired with the revelation and holy fuck. Awesome sauce. Getting some decent tones out of the revelation with the volume and gain decranked and the bf blasting it on the hiwatt, too. I didn't record any demos on the Marshall and I know I owe vid a demo, but it will have to be a home practice amp one dude. Sorry.
Other than that we just got our Om on and played some spacey, quiet delay biz and fuzzed it out here and there. Got to break in the disaster transport jr and it has me gassing for the sr.
Good weekend. Sucks to be back at work.
Getting more pumped about going back to uni now, too.
Edit: forgot to add, my mate has a minimat (v2 with reverb I think) that he was playing through my orange 212. Holy shit, that thing was sweet. Makes me want a quality lunch box amp for home use as well, but my budget be low.
Was wondering what you guys thought of the various options available. At this point, strong contenders are or15, dark terror, ampeg 15w head dealy and this hiwatt, if there are any mods to make it sound better, cleaner and handle the dirty betters, and if I can get a cheap one on the flip.
What say y'all?
Not sure if this is already a thread...
Not a serious recommendation, but you should totally try to hunt down a Toaster. 2x4"
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Or perhaps one of those baby Marshalls? There was a video on youtube of Brant Bjork playing Too Many Chiefs on one, sounded pretty good for a $60 investment.

Barnhard wrote:That bad huh? At this price there's really nothing stopping me from swapping out the speakers later. I might see if I can pickup another one for a similar price, split my rig into treble and bass components. Is the treble really that prominent on these things?
It's pretty present. My last post was a little bit of hyperbole, but these days I tend to use aluminum cabs for things like laptops running loops and noise, rather than actual instruments. YMMV, IMO, ETC.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:36 pm
by Barracuda
Iommic Pope wrote:I second everything everyone said about lyrics. I used to handle vocal duties and conk is right, it's a shit responsibility. It's good to hear I'm not the only one utilizing these tactics, but it's nice to have a big bag of tricks to pull from. I gotta say though, cogniscent, hyper-sexualised breakfast serial does sound like mike Patton should be involved somewhere.

Summit, your jam space sounds like fucking doom Mecca man. Hopefully one day I'm gonna have some scratch to travel with, and I can plug into the guest rig you got there.

I got to jam. With one of my mates on the weekend. I have some great friends. He lent me his hiwatt t10 practice head and a cab while the sovtek is out so I can get back to playing at home. He warned me it loved effects, but hated dirt. He was right. It's fairly stiff and brittle sounding when clean, but basically gets real tinny when you blast it with dirt. Usually, I try and dial in the treble and mids for cut and clarity on my pedals and guit, but I find myself cranking all the tone knobs down to tame it. It seems to be more ok with the tones dark and wooly. I put an at in the preamp instead of the ax, didn't make too much difference. Might be the shitty ruby el84 though. Fuck I hate rubies. I don't care though it's good to make noise again.
I played through his 80s Marshall 800, got to bust out the ape blaster at decent volumes, couldn't get the black forest to sound how it usually does for me on that rig, but paired with the revelation and holy fuck. Awesome sauce. Getting some decent tones out of the revelation with the volume and gain decranked and the bf blasting it on the hiwatt, too. I didn't record any demos on the Marshall and I know I owe vid a demo, but it will have to be a home practice amp one dude. Sorry.
Other than that we just got our Om on and played some spacey, quiet delay biz and fuzzed it out here and there. Got to break in the disaster transport jr and it has me gassing for the sr.
Good weekend. Sucks to be back at work.
Getting more pumped about going back to uni now, too.
Edit: forgot to add, my mate has a minimat (v2 with reverb I think) that he was playing through my orange 212. Holy shit, that thing was sweet. Makes me want a quality lunch box amp for home use as well, but my budget be low.
Was wondering what you guys thought of the various options available. At this point, strong contenders are or15, dark terror, ampeg 15w head dealy and this hiwatt, if there are any mods to make it sound better, cleaner and handle the dirty betters, and if I can get a cheap one on the flip.
What say y'all?
Not sure if this is already a thread...
The ampeg 15 watt head stays pretty clean at homes volumes (at least by my standards). Cranked it's got a nice Zeppelin - AC/DC type distortion. It's a decent pedal platform... I run the highs backed off to 9:00, mids boosted to 3:00, and the bass at noon or a little boosted. Sounds nice with most of the fuzzes I've tried. The treble is pretty nasty (in a not so great way) any higher with dirt pedals. I was looking at the OR15, but the ampeg was a gift, so that's what I'm running with. I think the OR15 won't stay as clean though.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:52 pm
by t-rey
Ampeg definitely stays cleaner than most 15w amps. I run my treble pretty high though, but that's probably because the speakers in my cab are muddy pieces of shit.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:13 pm
by crohny
I really want to give that V4b reissue a whirl.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:39 pm
by samzadgan
i haven't tried the Ampeg, but remember Darren said he had the treble all the way off, which was my cue to look at something else…I did try out the OR15 through an orange 2x12. It was nice, i didn't get a chance to try it with pedals, but the clean was nice, but again I had to turn the treble down a lot to get the deep bassy sound i was looking for…but it does a good job it at low volumes but breaks up really early.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:41 pm
by conky
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Shroud Eater vinyl is in!

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:50 pm
by Chankgeez
D.o.S. wrote: Not a serious recommendation, but you should totally try to hunt down a Toaster. 2x4"
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Screw the Toaster. I want that Gretsch.

(Also, this page is like doom to Anglo-Saxons or some shit like that.)

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:37 pm
by D.o.S.
That 12" looks delicious.

I'd go for that Gretsch if it had a couple fewer strings. That were bigger.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:11 am
by odontophobia
Corey Y wrote:
odontophobia wrote:Thanks, Corey... As if I have money to buy any of these right now.

Are you using Logic/Garageband's drummer for the drums? Have you tried it? It's pretty sweet.
No problem, I love fueling GAS in others. Some of those aren't even in production yet, but you should have enough time to save up for the next preorder :thumb:

I use Toontrack's Superior Drummer 2.0 in Logic. I've used the Garageband loops before I had that, they're good. Now I just program most of my own stuff from scratch though, so I can match them to the riffs a little better. Although they have some great midi packs that I do use as a starting point a lot. Those I just did something really quick for each riff I was using, in 5-10 minutes before I got started recording. When I'm actually taking it seriously I spend a lot longer fine tuning them.
Was mostly talking about this... (probably want to jump 5 or 6 minutes in when he sort of shows drummer changing to the guitar track...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tuWFzMVjA4[/youtube]

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:34 am
by Holy Schnikes
Amber Valentine gets my motor running yet again...

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Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:39 am
by ryan summit
that stack was in the hangrr
theres really just a mic'd line 6 behind it
hmm...bad joke
time for bed

truth be told it was freakin badass

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:35 am
by AxAxSxS
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Only six strings, bu I still had a little Stoneburner guitar envy.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:47 am
by Iommic Pope
D.o.S. wrote:

Not a serious recommendation, but you should totally try to hunt down a Toaster. 2x4"


Or perhaps one of those baby Marshalls? There was a video on youtube of Brant Bjork playing Too Many Chiefs on one, sounded pretty good for a $60 investment.
I always thought the toasters were a bit gimmicky, but I never paid attention to the price.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GREEN-Matamp ... 0401143769
At $750US, you can stick it up your arse.
That is some expensive green tolex and mojo on a solid state practice amp right there.
Barracuda wrote:
The ampeg 15 watt head stays pretty clean at homes volumes (at least by my standards). Cranked it's got a nice Zeppelin - AC/DC type distortion. It's a decent pedal platform... I run the highs backed off to 9:00, mids boosted to 3:00, and the bass at noon or a little boosted. Sounds nice with most of the fuzzes I've tried. The treble is pretty nasty (in a not so great way) any higher with dirt pedals. I was looking at the OR15, but the ampeg was a gift, so that's what I'm running with. I think the OR15 won't stay as clean though.
t-rey wrote:Ampeg definitely stays cleaner than most 15w amps. I run my treble pretty high though, but that's probably because the speakers in my cab are muddy pieces of shit.
samzadgan wrote:i haven't tried the Ampeg, but remember Darren said he had the treble all the way off, which was my cue to look at something else…I did try out the OR15 through an orange 2x12. It was nice, i didn't get a chance to try it with pedals, but the clean was nice, but again I had to turn the treble down a lot to get the deep bassy sound i was looking for…but it does a good job it at low volumes but breaks up really early.
Yeah, the Hi Watt does have some awful treble qualities I'm finding. Hmmm....maybe the little OR isn't what I want.
Maybe, I actually want a tiny fender head, or something. Iunno.
conky wrote:Image

Shroud Eater vinyl is in!
Your son fucking rocks, dude.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:44 am
by amorphous
Holy Schnikes wrote:Amber Valentine gets my motor running yet again...

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i have one of those Traynor vertical 212 cabs like she has on the bottom far right - bass monsters!