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Re: Devi console news!
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:30 am
by Jwar
Just to be clear, I am against kickstarter because it has no recourse for the people who set them up. I'm sure it's a good tool when used right. But then again, it just doesn't sit well with me. I would never personally use it because I don't believe in it. I would rather fund things up front if the need be or borrow the money from elsewhere. I am lucky because I have the ability to have help from other sources if I need some investing. That comes largely from my years of previous work.
So I think the main issue here is that Devi (again, I like Devi for what she does and her pedals for the most part are great IMO, plus she's really helped me out, so she gets my benefit of the doubt) did not comply with one of the rules of kickstarter
"Kickstarter cannot be used to raise money for causes, whether it's the Red Cross or a scholarship, or for "fund my life" projects, like tuition or bills"
A failed project, is a failed project. Shit like that happens all the time. If you invest in anything and lose your ass, the company you invested in does not have a obligation to repay you unless it is stated in a binding contract.
Re: Devi console news!
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 2:06 am
by dubkitty
i just wish Devi would get some help. she's been in a more-or-less continual meltdown ever since i first visited her forum, and she suffers a lot more than necessary. it stopped being any kind of funny a long, long time ago.
Re: Devi console news!
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 3:05 am
by GardenoftheDead
aens_wife wrote:Are we still fucking stuck on use he, it, etc when referring to trans people? Really? I thought maybe the fine folks of ILF could make it through this discourse without stooping to that level.
I completely understand the frustration with the current situation, but that is absolutely disgusting bigoted shit.
/end rant
All of this.
Please don't make me feel like a freak despite being the token transgirl in the room, ILF.
Re: Devi console news!
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 3:29 am
by behndy
GardenoftheDead wrote:aens_wife wrote:Are we still fucking stuck on use he, it, etc when referring to trans people? Really? I thought maybe the fine folks of ILF could make it through this discourse without stooping to that level.
I completely understand the frustration with the current situation, but that is absolutely disgusting bigoted shit.
/end rant
All of this.
Please don't make me feel like a freak despite being the token transgirl in the room, ILF.
f'realz. WhiskeyDick - not cool.
glad that's the one idjit response like that in this whole thing. Devi identifies as she, grow the fuck up if that bothers you.
but *I* get to go get pastries from my favorite bakery tomorrow. which makes me feel like a little grrL.
a happy little grrL. piloting a chunky large boy meat suit.
MY HAPPINESS CAN NOT BE DENTED BY YOUR SILLINESS.
Re: Devi console news!
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 3:30 am
by behndy
seriously. you've had almond croissants? and chocolate croissants? THEY DO A CHOCOLATE ALMOND CROISSANT. IT'S KITTEN FACE LEVELS OF AWESOMENESS.
oh and there's so much more there.
so..... so much MORE.
Re: Devi console news!
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:49 am
by woolyh
I blame Billy Corgan for all of this.
Re: Devi console news!
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:07 am
by phantasmagorovich
aens_wife wrote:Are we still fucking stuck on use he, it, etc when referring to trans people? Really? I thought maybe the fine folks of ILF could make it through this discourse without stooping to that level.
I completely understand the frustration with the current situation, but that is absolutely disgusting bigoted shit.
/end rant
Haha, when I read that post I was confused why the guy was suddenly hating on jwar.
Re: Devi console news!
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:45 am
by fiddelerselbow
woolyh wrote:I blame Billy Corgan for all of this.
I blame corgan for a lot of things in my life, namely my receding hairline anxieties.
Re: Devi console news!
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:25 am
by watchyourscrew
This is super shitty but I also think you shouldn't fund a Kickstarter unless you're comfortable with it failing down the line...it is an investment after all. Kinda risky. Obviously it's a bigger issue when it's a $100+ modular effects console and not a $10 indie game but it's a gamble
Re: Devi console news!
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:36 am
by O Drones
I'm (sorta) cool with funding and the idea failing, but Devi said 20k would do Console, then spends 20k on, amongst other things "personal expenses".
Re: Devi console news!
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:03 am
by RR Bigman
Kickstarter is only shift when your contributors aren't aware of the risks. Otherwise it's caveat emptor.
Re: Devi console news!
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:21 am
by TweedBassman
what a giant bummer of a situation all around. I actually liked the Console idea and though about getting in on it but didn't.
i hope all those who put in money get something back. i wonder who bought out the DE name and stuff....

Re: Devi console news!
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:51 am
by woolyh
TweedBassman wrote:i wonder who bought out the DE name and stuff....

Zvex?

Re: Devi console news!
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:56 am
by Doctor X
donner?
Re: Devi console news!
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 12:03 pm
by MEC
woolyh wrote:TweedBassman wrote:i wonder who bought out the DE name and stuff....

Zvex?

Doctor X wrote:donner?
Freekish Blooz?