Now I'm not an evolutionary biologist, but why on earth would humans of the far future evolve to have such sensitive hearing? The only scenario I can envision is a Matrix/Terminator-type scenario where we are hunted by relentless machines, in which case the least of our worries (if humanity even survived that long) would be remixing future pop, or listen to music at all.
It doesn't even have to be for us. It could be for aliens or higher dimensional beings. But also, even in the spectrum we do hear, we are biased towards 1k to 2k in the spectrum. So evolution would even reshape the sounds we hear in the 20hz to 20khz current human hearing spectrum, then nevermind what is above 20khz.
Just because you cant hear it, doesnt mean its not there. What we do here has consequences in the higher dimensions, the same way a cell has an effect on our body.
I'm not saying those frequencies are not there, just that they are inaudible to humans. I'm perfectly happy with the hearing range I currently have, and - apart from a slight issue with my left eardrum - glad I've avoided developing tinnitus.
If you believe in that higher dimensions stuff, well OK... pretty much the same as someone believing in God to me.
Maybe you are trolling, but you still haven't explained WHY evolution would reshape the human ear in such a way.
If you dont believe in dimensions then you dont believe in mathematics or science, never mind God.
Your looking at evolution from a smaller band. Look at it from a bigger band. We are evolving into higher beings, thats what expansion is, both of the universe and that means everything within that universe including us. Higher beings senses will be stronger and take in more information, hence more of the frequency spectrum and less biased like it is now, we are biased towards 1k to 2k.
Woolworm wrote:If you dont believe in dimensions then you dont believe in mathematics or science, never mind God.
Your looking at evolution from a smaller band. Look at it from a bigger band. We are evolving into higher beings, thats what expansion is, both of the universe and that means everything within that universe including us. Higher beings senses will be stronger and take in more information, hence more of the frequency spectrum and less biased like it is now, we are biased towards 1k to 2k.
Again, you're twisting my words, I never said I "don't believe in dimensions", just that there are limits to what we as humans can experience and that's alright. Mathematics, string theory and particle physics is not my strong suit, but yes: SCIENCE. What you're talking about is not that. Also, "biased towards 1k to 2k"? What about bass frequencies? I hear those are pretty popular nowadays.
Woolworm wrote:If you dont believe in dimensions then you dont believe in mathematics or science, never mind God.
Your looking at evolution from a smaller band. Look at it from a bigger band. We are evolving into higher beings, thats what expansion is, both of the universe and that means everything within that universe including us. Higher beings senses will be stronger and take in more information, hence more of the frequency spectrum and less biased like it is now, we are biased towards 1k to 2k.
Again, you're twisting my words, I never said I "don't believe in dimensions", just that there are limits to what we as humans can experience and that's alright. Mathematics, string theory and particle physics is not my strong suit, but yes: SCIENCE. What you're talking about is not that. Also, "biased towards 1k to 2k"? What about bass frequencies? I hear those are pretty popular nowadays.
Bruuuuuh.... I dont even. Think about it logically. Why does a bass frequency at the same decibel level than say 1khz, why does the 1k sound louder to us? Think about it. When I say biased I dont mean we like it more, biased in terms we actually hear it as louder. In the objective world, the frequencies at the same decibel level is the same volume. Its just our perceptions.
Last edited by Woolworm on Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Anyway when the future humans can hear every frequency and see all the dimensions I don't see why they need music from now to be recorded slightly higher fidelity
coldbrightsunlight wrote:Anyway when the future humans can hear every frequency and see all the dimensions I don't see why they need music from now to be recorded slightly higher fidelity
If the question is why they need to hear at such high fidelity, you've answered your own question, its because they can hear all those frequencies. Imagine a song you made and you just solo'd one band on an EQ on the master track of the song. It'll sound pretty barebones and incomplete. Thats what they'll hear. Your entire song now will just be one band on their EQ and its gonna sound incomplete. How about preserve those frequencies.
If the question is why they'll care about music from now, our art will be prized possessions, historical touchstones, the link between them and their past. The theory we come from apes is still just a theory, we don't really KNOW KNOW. Or that is just half the story, who else knows what helped us along to get from apes to humans, so many mysteries and events could've of happened that we never know. And now anything from thousands of years past is heralded.
Even given the premise that music from today survives this long and people can hear more frequencies somehow, one of the unique aspects of this period music for them might be the limited frequency content. Much like how we can appreciate and even romanticise the sounds of the past. Or, the lovely super high frequencies we capture now might sound absolutely terrible. We have no idea
In either case, I do not personnaly care what happens to anything I do in the future (i.e. in about 5 minutes). I don't even care that much about recording hi-fi audio in frequencies I can hear (I mean, beyond a certain basic level). Please do not take this as a judgement on your decision to care about these things.
The people of the future can figure stuff out on their own if they're still around.
coldbrightsunlight wrote:Even given the premise that music from today survives this long and people can hear more frequencies somehow, one of the unique aspects of this period music for them might be the limited frequency content. Much like how we can appreciate and even romanticise the sounds of the past. Or, the lovely super high frequencies we capture now might sound absolutely terrible. We have no idea
In either case, I do not personnaly care what happens to anything I do in the future (i.e. in about 5 minutes). I don't even care that much about recording hi-fi audio in frequencies I can hear (I mean, beyond a certain basic level). Please do not take this as a judgement on your decision to care about these things.
The people of the future can figure stuff out on their own if they're still around.
True, but it gives them more room to play with EQ's. And who knows what unintentional genius your compositions retain in those frequencies or these frequencies without biased hearing. One of these songs could unintntionally be the greatest song ever made, and the person made didnt even know it. Now imagine if its from Taylor Swift or I dunno, whoever else is embarrassing.
Does anyone know what organisms living now have the widest range of hearing freqwise?
EJ
Bassed in Los Angeles
@punkcrushband @painbehavior @queeraspunk @puzzytuesday
Good deals: Tom Dalton, lawrence scaduto, Ryan, Dan DubblEwe, multi_s, MaxMaps, ianmarks, cantremember
EJ
Bassed in Los Angeles
@punkcrushband @painbehavior @queeraspunk @puzzytuesday
Good deals: Tom Dalton, lawrence scaduto, Ryan, Dan DubblEwe, multi_s, MaxMaps, ianmarks, cantremember
Or, the lovely super high frequencies we capture now might sound absolutely terrible. We have no idea 