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Other than the ones listed of course, the Valeton Dark Tale
(listed as 308 plus bass/treble controls...and discontinued, but still available)

Dunwich volt thrower

Jero wrote:Other than the ones listed of course, the Valeton Dark Tale
(listed as 308 plus bass/treble controls...and discontinued, but still available)

Ooooh, and it's like $40. Interesting.

theavondon wrote:

Jero wrote:Other than the ones listed of course, the Valeton Dark Tale
(listed as 308 plus bass/treble controls...and discontinued, but still available)

Ooooh, and it's like $40. Interesting.

Indeed! Was just talking with someone in the pedalboard thread that has one. Said it's a good basic rat with extra controls and higher gain range. Pretty tempting!

MXR Bass Distortion

Fuzzrocious worked with them on it, based it on a 308 chippppP

Funny, I have not ever owned a rat or a rat clone but I use a emulation of one almost exclusively for my dirt in Bias FX.

Here's a challenge...Name every company/brand that DOESN'T sell a rat clone

Dwarfcraft

frigid midget wrote:Here's a challenge...Name every company/brand that DOESN'T sell a rat clone

I'll start with these:

Boss
EQD
Digitech

Derelict78 wrote:Dwarfcraft

Which pedal is Rat based? I don't recall a Dwarfcraft rat.


Proco for the win though. I've tried a bunch and nothing beats the original.

That was for the "who doesn't make a rat clone"

tremolo3 wrote:

frigid midget wrote:Here's a challenge...Name every company/brand that DOESN'T sell a rat clone

I'll start with these:

Digitech

The Hot Rod distortion has a Rat mode (though it's technically a digital simulation).

Jero wrote:

theavondon wrote:

Jero wrote:Other than the ones listed of course, the Valeton Dark Tale
(listed as 308 plus bass/treble controls...and discontinued, but still available)

Ooooh, and it's like $40. Interesting.

Indeed! Was just talking with someone in the pedalboard thread that has one. Said it's a good basic rat with extra controls and higher gain range. Pretty tempting!

The EQ controls have an insane amount of range, too. It does everything from icepick treble to earthshaking bass, though it takes a bit of tweaking to find sweet spots. Also, they tend to be 15% off during most Reverb sales, as do most other Valeton offerings.

Another Rat variant worth mentioning is the Yellowcake Furry Burrito. With dual gain controls, a bass boost switch, an external voltage starve trimmer, darker tonal character than a stock Proco unit, and plenty of output on tap, all sorts of aural mayhem is possible. It excels at producing Muff-ish Rat hybrid gain textures and crusty horn timbres with a bow-like attack. Slightly decreased voltage also creates the same effect as using a carbon zinc battery with DC power.

The aforementioned Iron Pig is my favorite Rat clone at the moment. I snagged a V3 during the preorder period, which could almost be my only dirt. The germanium mode is extra fuzzy-licious. Think EQD Grey Channel Ge mode, but ten shades meaner.

Does anyone have experience with the Caroline Wave Cannon? I recall reading somewhere about it being Rat-based. If this is true, the addition of a mid control, momentary oscillation footswitch, and dual gain modes make it extremely tempting, though the Furry Burrito probably covers similar territory.

ck3 wrote:Does anyone have experience with the Caroline Wave Cannon? I recall reading somewhere about it being Rat-based. If this is true, the addition of a mid control, momentary oscillation footswitch, and dual gain modes make it extremely tempting, though the Furry Burrito probably covers similar territory.

I’m not sure about the Wave Cannon mkI/Cannonball, but they cover similar ground so it’s possible. The Wave Cannon mkII is based on the Invader preamp in the Kilobyte/Meteore/Parabola though

Rat Clone Playlist for y'all while you read through this thread.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U55stSItNHU[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU3DZxbTdUs[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u8teXR8VE4[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vMpfbuI9FY[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kfx80H3N1g[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I1IX2cqjQ4[/youtube]

Derelict78 wrote:Funny, I have not ever owned a rat or a rat clone but I use a emulation of one almost exclusively for my dirt in Bias FX.

A friend of mine who records was telling me how he's always hated Rats, but was recording this guitar solo once and put a rat emulation on it and was like "Oh! That's why people use them."

ck3 wrote: Another Rat variant worth mentioning is the Yellowcake Furry Burrito. With dual gain controls, a bass boost switch, an external voltage starve trimmer, darker tonal character than a stock Proco unit, and plenty of output on tap, all sorts of aural mayhem is possible. It excels at producing Muff-ish Rat hybrid gain textures and crusty horn timbres with a bow-like attack. Slightly decreased voltage also creates the same effect as using a carbon zinc battery with DC power.

The aforementioned Iron Pig is my favorite Rat clone at the moment. I snagged a V3 during the preorder period, which could almost be my only dirt. The germanium mode is extra fuzzy-licious. Think EQD Grey Channel Ge mode, but ten shades meaner.

The yellowcake sounds interesting. I like the idea of doing something (even not that outrageously) new with the Rat circuit. The ProCo Solo does a similar thing by adding a BMP tonestack to a Rat, which is neat to come straight from the source.

Heard good things about the Iron Pig, too. IDK why I've never tried one, I love the supercollider. Also need to get a throat locust.

zero idea bout the wave cannon tho