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Re: McGregor Vs Mayweather
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:16 am
by weebles
A cheer for Mayweather is a cheer for a man who makes a living as the supposed greatest professional boxer ever who doubles as the most un-repentant, un-jailed famous beater of multiple women!!! Hooray!!!
Seriously, though. Fuck this fight. Fuck Mayweather fans. McGregor made $30 million to fight a man whose entire career is predicated on hand-picking his opponents after they've passed their prime and letting Vegas deflate the number of years that should be on his prison sentence. So fuck McGregor, too.
Re: McGregor Vs Mayweather
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:28 am
by JereFuzz
The fight was very entertaining. McGregor did much better than I expected.
Re: McGregor Vs Mayweather
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:12 am
by PanicProne
Watched a "replay" this morning and I agree. Like I said before, I don't like boxing and I don't know much about it, but although he won (little early stoppade can be discussed but I don't see Conor coming back at that point) he didn't look super impressive to me. But yeah, I don't know anything about boxing. I enjoyed watching it but it'll probably be the first and last boxing match I'll ever see.
Re: McGregor Vs Mayweather
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:19 am
by Olin
Mayweather Jr has been boxing his whole life, and tried to make as much money as possible with it. He's done that, cherry-picking, unexciting but exceedingly calculated fights, endless hype to get his opponents fans believing that he may actually lose, smart marketing, it's all bringing in the money. Not many actual boxing fans seem to really care much about what he's doing, and certainly no one gives a shit about McGregor trying to chime in to the sport.
The fight was as predictable as everyone said it was going to be, and I'm glad it's over so we can go back to waiting for GGG v Canelo and Joshua Anthony to go up against Wilder, hopefully all the MMA dudebros will have lost interest in boxing by then..
Re: McGregor Vs Mayweather
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:31 am
by raj007
^ Well said Olin.
Re: McGregor Vs Mayweather
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:14 am
by JereFuzz
Olin wrote:Mayweather Jr has been boxing his whole life, and tried to make as much money as possible with it. He's done that, cherry-picking, unexciting but exceedingly calculated fights, endless hype to get his opponents fans believing that he may actually lose, smart marketing, it's all bringing in the money. Not many actual boxing fans seem to really care much about what he's doing, and certainly no one gives a shit about McGregor trying to chime in to the sport.
The fight was as predictable as everyone said it was going to be, and I'm glad it's over so we can go back to waiting for GGG v Canelo and Joshua Anthony to go up against Wilder, hopefully all the MMA dudebros will have lost interest in boxing by then..
I think Canelo will win a close one with GGG. I think GGG is slowing down a bit, though his last opponent would make anyone look bad. I think the big fights in the next 6 months to 2 years will be in the Lightweight-Welterweight range. Lots of good comp in that area.
Re: McGregor Vs Mayweather
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:43 am
by PanicProne
Dudebro or not. I can inform you my interest for boxing is now lost. I'm going back to watching MMA. Bye!
Re: McGregor Vs Mayweather
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:49 am
by raj007
UFC is checkers
Boxing is chess
Re: McGregor Vs Mayweather
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:49 pm
by Olin
PanicProne wrote:Dudebro or not. I can inform you my interest for boxing is now lost. I'm going back to watching MMA. Bye!
Wasn't a reference to you, more the meathead types who were banging on about how McGregor will win simply because he does UFC, without really knowing how boxing works at all.
Re: Canelo v GGG though, I really think GGG has it. Canelo has put on a ton of bulk for this fight, which has done him no favours. He's short and stocky, really sluggish footwork, he plants himself well and has great defense when he's light enough to move properly, but he's terrible at fighting from the outside and has no idea how to stop jabs. All that extra weight has given him no extra power, made him sluggish, and he'll wear himself out; he's also a fan of cherry-picking his fights (Khan in particular was absurd, he was never meant to fight that far out of his true weight division), and this time he's up against a natural middleweight. I don't think it'll be an easy fight for Golovkin, but all the odds are in his favour for a solid win, unless the judges give Canelo another point victory which he absolutely doesn't deserve, again.
There are some great fighters in LW and WW, but HW also has some great fighters currently. Joshua really is a joy to watch, dude is just mechanical and surgically accurate.
Re: McGregor Vs Mayweather
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:53 pm
by repoman
Boxing is weird. Its an interesting specimen of observable societal programming.
Re: McGregor Vs Mayweather
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:56 pm
by Chankgeez
raj007 wrote:UFC is checkers
Boxing is chess
Everybody knows this's where it's at:

Re: McGregor Vs Mayweather
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:01 pm
by Olin
repoman wrote:Boxing is weird. Its an interesting specimen of observable societal programming.
Could the same not be said for all sports?
Re: McGregor Vs Mayweather
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:11 pm
by repoman
Olin wrote:repoman wrote:Boxing is weird. Its an interesting specimen of observable societal programming.
Could the same not be said for all sports?
No...
Boxing is weird in regards to how much money is thrown around, the hype of the fights, and how little of an actual core of genuine fans exist compared to people that watch stuff like this because it gets plastered everywhere in media...the fan to bandwagon ratio in boxing is enormous compared to sports like NBA, NFL, MBA. Also the complete mess of sanctioning bodies, pick and choose fights and officiating rigging destroying any kind of ladder.
Re: McGregor Vs Mayweather
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:23 pm
by JereFuzz
Olin wrote:PanicProne wrote:Dudebro or not. I can inform you my interest for boxing is now lost. I'm going back to watching MMA. Bye!
Wasn't a reference to you, more the meathead types who were banging on about how McGregor will win simply because he does UFC, without really knowing how boxing works at all.
Re: Canelo v GGG though, I really think GGG has it. Canelo has put on a ton of bulk for this fight, which has done him no favours. He's short and stocky, really sluggish footwork, he plants himself well and has great defense when he's light enough to move properly, but he's terrible at fighting from the outside and has no idea how to stop jabs. All that extra weight has given him no extra power, made him sluggish, and he'll wear himself out; he's also a fan of cherry-picking his fights (Khan in particular was absurd, he was never meant to fight that far out of his true weight division), and this time he's up against a natural middleweight. I don't think it'll be an easy fight for Golovkin, but all the odds are in his favour for a solid win, unless the judges give Canelo another point victory which he absolutely doesn't deserve, again.
There are some great fighters in LW and WW, but HW also has some great fighters currently. Joshua really is a joy to watch, dude is just mechanical and surgically accurate.
It should be interesting. Despite the punching power of both I'm thinking this will go to the cards the more I think about it. Neither has one punch KO power, both have good enough defense to avoid giant bombs, but neither will want to risk too much, fearing a strong counter. 2017 is actually turning out to be a good year for boxing. It seems that MMA has reached a saturation point and it appears to be on the downslide (from a high peak). The Jones doping scandal and McGregor fighting Mayweather has deprived the UFC of its big faces. Boxing has strong roots and had a monopoly on fighting sports (at least in the West) for over a century. Again, both are fun to watch.
Re: McGregor Vs Mayweather
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:30 pm
by JereFuzz
repoman wrote:Olin wrote:repoman wrote:Boxing is weird. Its an interesting specimen of observable societal programming.
Could the same not be said for all sports?
No...
Boxing is weird in regards to how much money is thrown around, the hype of the fights, and how little of an actual core of genuine fans exist compared to people that watch stuff like this because it gets plastered everywhere in media...the fan to bandwagon ratio in boxing is enormous compared to sports like NBA, NFL, MBA. Also the complete mess of sanctioning bodies, pick and choose fights and officiating rigging destroying any kind of ladder.
Boxing has a bigger base than you might imagine. It's still huge in Latin America and interest in it shifts as new prospects emerge from different countries who bring their countrymen into the fold. Boxing is a boom/bust sport; it has its lulls unlike NBA, NFL, etc., but when the stars align and you have a good crop of fighters in a narrow range of divisions, for example Lightweight to Welterweight, and with fighters from different countries, there is a giant pool of viewers/fans who are brought into the fold.