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D.o.S. wrote:Eat a dick, you're wrong.

Fixed with proper punctuation.

D.o.S. wrote:Eat a dick you're wrong.

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Only a period or possibly a semi-colon would be correct there. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

JIMMIES RUSTLING TO MAXIMUM LEVELS

See, here's the thing. (ok that period was intentional for rustled Jameses) Proper grammar doesn't actually matter -- it is, in nearly every application you can think of -- secondary to colloquial linguistics even when you're talking about the written word. Those that think differently are, in essence, blues lawyers getting their fedoras in a huff because you're not playing a I-IV-V.

And, like blues lawyers, many of the people who are uptight about 'the rules' are people who don't actually work/exist in or actively habitate the industry where said regulations apply.

also em-dash > colon.




eat a dick you're wrong.

It doesn't autocorrect it on message boards (well it does to save space memory space...it just destorys all characters that wouldn't be used, but it wouldn't show up even if the spaces were there). HTML takes all spaces between characters and reduces them to one space so that the formatting in the mark up can have some structure without destroying with the formatting that the user reads. To add an extra space in HTML would require the designer to add &nbsp all over the damn place.

The board's posting script takes line breaks and then adds them. In HTML they would be ignored and everthing would be on the same line. This is added to make things easier for the user end. The same idea could have been applied to the double space, but it is not needed (meaning replacing the second "space" with "&nbsp").

In certain formats I still use the double space (playwriting, prose) but do not use it in any type of normal writing not meant for a "creative" publication. I think that is the result of habit and due to my age/old-school-school training.

By default, HTML does not have indentations on paragraphs either (which would usually be added by style sheets these days but there were work arounds in previous versions such as the "indent" in the <p> [never worked right..spotty support] and just adding several "&nbsp"'s).

I use "alright" 'cause I thought it was funny back in the 1990s to type on IRC using the words I hear on the TV (ain't, 'cause, adding "the").

I guess I could start typin' all proper on here, but it ain't no fun, dudes. And typing on a phone is shit and a pain...so I go for the quick and dirty.

People being dicks about "period space space" is pretty lame though. Having worked in several places with people that had advanced degrees (MS to PhD), I can attest to them needing to learn how to write a complete sentence before worrying about formatting (not saying that is anyone's problem here, but it is a problem in the sciences and business world. Written communication is seen as a waste of resources in many professions. Hell, even a large amount of modern journalists can't:

1. complete a thought
2. follow a logical progression throughout a work
3. cite something without a hyperlink
4. prove they have training beyond making a grocery list

Did you ever totally fell like you are totally smart, running people into the ground with those facts I make?

Everyone reads articles in a similar format and style daily in places like vice, newspapers, SEO "articles" and nobody gives a shit because the same ad revenue is generated whether the work was properly editted or not. When sportswriters are at the top of an industry, there is a problem.)

Damn this is turning into a lame rant by an old guy...that ain't even 35. Time to go work in the woodshop

D.o.S. wrote:It's not a thing 'all of a sudden', it's from like ~20 years ago, when word processors, which had replaced typewriters in everyday life, had more or less uniformed spacing between the space of letters/symbols/blank space.

There's some argument to be had about the benefits of two sentences instead of one as far as reading comprehension goes:

Dr. Sherman Sticks makes sexy beats. Even Blockhead thinks so (but he doesn't like the crash). And Blockhead doesn't like anything.
Dr. Sherman Sticks makes sexy beats. Even Blockhead thinks so (but he doesn't like the crash). And Blockhead doesn't like anything.

edit: ILF autocorrects to one space. There goes that example.

I kept trying to see a difference.
1 space is the way to go.
I do remember learning 2 spaces in Mr. Santoli's typing class in 9th grade.

I have a bad habit of dividing everything up (Example above), but it's mostly because I know that 50% of what I type everyday will get dumped into a translator and spit back out in Chinese.

snipelfritz wrote:Fuck all of you, especially D.o.S. whose example starts a sentence with a conjunction.

Even with respect to weird anachronistic language rules I've never heard of beginning sentences with conjunctions as being an thing. Ending them with prepositions, or conjunctions in professional/academic writing sure, whatever, but this is none of those.

The one that really bothers me is the "no split infinitives" thing. In English it's two words, and deal with it.

I'm totally a two-spacer. I actually feel like one space makes everything look cramped and make sentences look like run-ons. I know you're not "supposed to" do it anymore, but one space just looks so freaking WRONG to me.

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D.o.S. wrote:

lost in music wrote:I have a friend who is a high school English teacher and he posted about this the other day, taking the anachronistic view. I was like "if you're pushing them towards English as a major you should at least want them to be able to get along in the publishing industry."

The publishing industry was one of the last holdouts for double space after a period, incidentally. They used to require it for manuscripts even into the mid 90's.

Frankly "alright" is much more of an abomination than this. It's 'all right' for everyone that isn't Bob Dylan.

*who

I thought this was gonna be a menstruation thread.

futuresailors wrote:

D.o.S. wrote:

lost in music wrote:I have a friend who is a high school English teacher and he posted about this the other day, taking the anachronistic view. I was like "if you're pushing them towards English as a major you should at least want them to be able to get along in the publishing industry."

The publishing industry was one of the last holdouts for double space after a period, incidentally. They used to require it for manuscripts even into the mid 90's.

Frankly "alright" is much more of an abomination than this. It's 'all right' for everyone that isn't Bob Dylan.

*who

I am guilty of "alright".
What's getting me lately is "till".
I know it's been popular since like the Victorian era to use it, but the way I view it, if you're abbreviating "until", you want to write it as "'til".
Otherwise I think you're tending soil.
Now I'm not sure if there should be a space between those quotation marks and that apostrophe.

I was taught to put two spaces after a period, but I was taught by old women who were probably afraid of the computers since they were new. I actually made it all the way through grad school two-spacing all of my papers without being corrected. I only figured it out while doing some research about proper formatting for my book.

Tho is the worst.

Only acceptable if spelled Doe as in "Dat ass, doe."