Grindcore and such

daseb · Post by **daseb** » Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:17 am

Doom are great (I'd consider them more crust punk though but who cares), and I love the story about the bassist being asked why he only has two strings on his bass.

(in case one breaks, duh).

Mudfuzz · Post by **Mudfuzz** » Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:23 am

daseb wrote:Doom are great (I'd consider them more crust punk though but who cares), and I love the story about the bassist being asked why he only has two strings on his bass.

(in case one breaks, duh).

with the "and such" I thought them important

goroth · Post by **goroth** » Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:59 am

Good grind has always had an unhealthy relationship with crust.

Monarch · Post by **Monarch** » Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:42 am

Hope porn-grindcore counts

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqlKE6Bf5sM[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdfxYXPxIhU[/youtube]

Emetica, one of my grindcore favs.

Strange Tales · Post by **Strange Tales** » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:34 am

goroth wrote:Gridlink!

That's who I was trying to think of! Man, they are bonkers.

Gridlink fucking destroy everything. Their last album is pretty much the top shit.

I'm really into Motiveless from Sapporo
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha9G4o23or8[/youtube]

and I guess Trikorona counts as grind. They really go in between grind/noise/hardcore. Great band.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq8YoK3EB-g[/youtube]

resincum · Post by **resincum** » Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:16 am

Gridlink blows my fucking mind. I know this dude Joey Molinaro (grind violinist//plays some discordance axis covers on his violin and stomps on a plank of wood or something to simulate the drums, real cool shit) apparently the dude behind GL contacted him and Joey ended up composing a few guitar parts on Longhena. crazy stuff. recorded a bunch but only a couple of parts 'made the cut'

saw Infest a couple years back at Chaos In Tejas, so fucking rad..bummer that shit is done.

I wouldn't really consider Torch Runner or Cult Leader/that type of stuff as 'grind' per se, but I do love the shit out of them and understand the lump..I know a few people around here that would give me the stink eye for calling em grind hahah. Yautja is pretty incredible, too.

goroth · Post by **goroth** » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:32 am

Hey resin, you get any answers to your CL ad?
If not:

I want to be in your band.
Please relocate to Sweden.

K thanks.

foomanfat · Post by **foomanfat** » Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:48 pm

resincum wrote:I know a few people around here that would give me the stink eye for calling em grind hahah.

I'm still learning. Gotta get my definitions in order.

Stoked to start digging into all this stuff! Anyone familiar with Calvaiire?

lordgalvar · Post by **lordgalvar** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:10 pm

Not all grind but here: effigy, depressor, cress, godstomper, green beret, guillotine terror, head hits concrete, le scrawl, mind of asian, pignation, pretty little flower, real reggae, senseless apocalypse, soilent green, fuck on the beach, carcass grinder, SWARRRM, teen cthulhu.,s.o.b...

The Bludge/Final Exit split is one of my favorites...but can't find it online.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL9YR_NbzR8[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY-pNlcw0eY[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmDMfcgGpeQ[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWTIMnn30bw[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2zKzv6okEM[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaQ-sdtdUcI[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibvGT6DGElo[/youtube]

I guess I was more into grind than I remember. Still haven't looked at my records.

lordgalvar · Post by **lordgalvar** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:18 pm

This is weird...there are several final exits out there..i've been talking about the one from Japan...but I remember these guys too...but you know who recorded it? Freppo/parasit studios/arcaderator genius! Crazy haha

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtJTVFBvoV8[/youtube]

Oh yea, gotta space out the grind listening with some Amebix

daseb · Post by **daseb** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:34 pm

that Final Exit (umea) s/t record is a classic. '90% of these riffs were stolen from bands that sold out and don't deserve them anyway'.

the raytownian · Post by **the raytownian** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:19 pm

My sister's copy of the Grindcrusher compilation, which I stole from her room after she was kicked out (IIRC), was an incredibly important discovery for me in the 8th grade.

That is the album that pretty much informed the entirety of my early knowledge grindcore and OSDM, and really extreme metal in general, only having heard through my eldest sister, who was fucking obsessed with Dax Riggs beyond reason, a lot of his music, a bit of Morbid Angel and early Burzum, some local BM bands and whatever symphonic BM stuff she was into that week.

Boy-howdy! For a kid who was only recently beginning to discover and independently listen to music beyond numetal and nirvana (my DoT them was old school heavy metal a la Iron Maiden and Dio, along with super-fruity European power metal like Rhapsody and the slightly less fruity but still incredibly fruity Blind Guardian), that compilation was a revelation.

Sore Throat... Naked City... Napalm Death... O.L.D... Carcass... Entombed... Bolt Thrower... Terrorizer... Repulsion... Jesus fucking damn! I've been a fan of OSDM and grind/noisecore ever since. I love the old stuff to bits. I never really paid much attention to "new-oldschool" grind bands like Insect Warfare, and I've never been very interested in them. They might be good, but I just don't really care enough about finding out, even though I seem to enjoy just about every boring, generic Rot/Agathocles minceclone band I hear. I also like some of the mid-late 90's bands I've heard like Enemy Soil and Mule Skinner a lot as well. More recently, I've come around to a lot of the slick, overcompressed 90's-00's Relapse-y goregrind stuff, which used to really get on my nerves. Stuff like Regurgitate and Dead Infection. I've come to enjoy those kinds of bands quite a lot.

Never really developed any interest in Nasum or Pig Destroyer, but then I never really listened to much of either. As for Napalm Death, I think they have been boring (not to mention, just plain "un-grind") for ages, unfortunately. Being something of an old school purist, I think the best stuff they did was without Greenway, even though I still consider Harmony Corruption to be a very good album. Just about everything after that seemed totally boring to me, if not outright shitty. The couple of albums before Diatribes (yuuuuuck!) were okay, and there was a time where I was briefly all gung-ho about later-era ND when The Code is Red... and Smear Campaign came out, but I got bored of them both pretty quickly, and nothing before or since then has appealed to me at all or only very little. It's all middling at best to me. Still, the demos and Dorian-era stuff I have loved immensely and consistently since the first time I heard any of it.

Disrupt, however you want to classify them (Grind, Crust, HC, whatever) were fucking amazing also, BTW. I also like AxCx and don't care what anyone has to say about it.

EDIT: Also, fucking WARSORE!

lordgalvar · Post by **lordgalvar** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:28 pm

Hell yea, some Disrupt, Sore Throat and OLD love on the board!

My friend was friends with Napalm Death when they had all the original members. They were more hardcore/anarcho punk and then Scum came out and couldn't believe it was them (but I think by that point no original members where in the band). Scum was good, but could care less about most of the stuff after (some fo the BBC sessions I guess).

daseb · Post by **daseb** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:37 pm

not even FETO?

Scum is my favourite for sure. They're basically two different bands on that record, let alone what they are by now. Still got it live though.

the raytownian · Post by **the raytownian** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:43 pm

lordgalvar wrote:Hell yea, some Disrupt, Sore Throat and OLD love on the board!

My friend was friends with Napalm Death when they had all the original members. They were more hardcore/anarcho punk and then Scum came out and couldn't believe it was them (but I think by that point no original members where in the band). Scum was good, but could care less about most of the stuff after (some fo the BBC sessions I guess).

Oh, yeah, I've heard their track from the Bullshit Detector comp. As someone who discovered the band in their well-established late-80's/early-90's form, hearing "The Crucifixion of Possessions" was as much of a mindfuck for me as Scum must have been for any early days fan.

Great song. I wish some of the other old anarcho-punk stuff would make its way to the public, though. I've been waiting for any of it to show up on a bootleg or something for years now... All these old demos seem to exist in name only (excluding the Hatred Surge and FETO demos + the odd live recording, which are all over bootlegs and on the net). Maybe some day something else will appear from the ether, though.

Also, I'd never turn down a chance to see ND live, even today. From what I've seen they really can still "bring it", even though I'm not much of a fan of their current output.

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