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From the few demos I know of the cave I'd agree with either digital delay at very short time settings or flanger if you get one where the modulation can be dialed off.

For me those purposes are filled by DD-6 (sounds very much like a cave, actually) or the ibanez SF-10 swell flanger (sounds more like you were playing a sitar). I should try stacking them.

I've tried recreating the MC's character and can get much of the behavior in different pedals, maybe 90% there. It helps when you have a Frostwave Resonator & Dr Scientist BitQuest.
BitQuest seems to have multiple patches to give you dem timbres. The Flanger, LP/HP resonant filters, Ring mod. Maybe combining 3 BitQuests is the way to get closer. High Ctr-2 knob settings go a long way...

But the MC is still...different. It imparts metallic-clang-meets-analog-synth-bass texture, and when the d-time "aligns" with the resonant frequency it's like a nuclear reaction. The notes sandwiching that corner freq growl...while the note inside roars. If you're using the pedal with a playing drum or bass loop, something with oneshots or single notes then seriously intimidating tones are the result. The (squarewave) lfo appears to modulate the intensity and where/when the growl/roar catches and releases the note. Much harmonics.

Hollow-metallic-clang-meets-analog-synth-bass*
Make time to D-time and cease slackin there, Dossy

Dandolin wrote:For your consideration: 8Ts Ibanez DCF-10--early digital chorus flanger that has adjustable delay range from .25msec to 128msec...

I just got a DML-10, and was just going to say that it could probably do the trick...

rustywire wrote:Hollow-metallic-clang-meets-analog-synth-bass*
Make time to D-time and cease slackin there, Dossy

from my desk I can see a Ct5, the Misty Cave, a Small Echo Array, a Goodbye 24, and they're all sitting on a Headrush box (which has a headrush inside). And I can't use it.

I hate everything.

D.o.S. wrote:

rustywire wrote:Hollow-metallic-clang-meets-analog-synth-bass*
Make time to D-time and cease slackin there, Dossy

from my desk I can see a Ct5, the Misty Cave, a Small Echo Array, a Goodbye 24, and they're all sitting on a Headrush box (which has a headrush inside). And I can't use it.

I hate everything.

I will help you out: just ship them all to me, and I will stare at them frustrated that I can't get the time to use them for you.

I got really close with my vintage Stereo Memory Man yesterday. And the DD's totally get close

I've only had a DD7 and I don't remember liking the very short heavy mix delay sounds, do the other versions sound any different? I'm probably just biased because i've been through the same pedal like 3 times for reason

It depends, what is it that you didn't like about the DD-7 soundwise?

it was kinda of sterile and weak sounding, the misty cave sounds kinda mechanical but it sounds more musical to me in some way

A old DD-3 or DD-2 would do better than a DD-7 IMO, they're 12-bit with analog feedback stage vs. 16-bit on all the new ones so they sound quite different.
I still don't think a digital delay is gonna get as far as an analog one in this instance though as far as timbre is concerned. The reason the DD's get close is because their delay time extends down to like 12.5ms or something which is comb filtering territory whereas a lot of delays only go down to 20ms or so. As mentioned the ibanez ones like the DCF and DML can extend into the necessary delay times quite well, but tonally they still aren't that close IMO.

Maybe look out for a deluxe electric mistress. Filter matrix mode is just a really short static delay.

Would a PDS 20/20 get close? Looks like its shortest setting is in the 16 ms range...

I should probably just plug mine in and see...

jrmy wrote:Would a PDS 20/20 get close? Looks like its shortest setting is in the 16 ms range...

I should probably just plug mine in and see...

Isn't that the one that has an internal trimpot for delay time or something? I remember reading that it could go up to PDS8000-territory. Maybe it'll work the other way around for really short d-times?