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dase wrote:I use cargo collective as like an online portfolio too. Do you want actual commissions or like design work? All the money for me has pretty much always been in drawing shit for bands. But I can't recommend highly enough having a pretty simple agreement or contract if you do go that route. Getting paid for shirts I've drawn is like drawing blood from a stone sometimes. Musicians, we're the worst people.

I've realized a lot of that already, even though no one has yet to follow through on a commission request. I've had people email me, but once I respond with "this is about how much it's going to cost, and this is what the contract would entail," they stop responding to me, probably because they can get one of their friends to do something for them for free. It seems that most people don't realize that it takes hours of work to make cool art, and that if they pay you below a certain amount, you'd be making less than minimum wage on it.

I'd take commissions or design work as long as the "design work" isn't too commercial or whatever.

Yeah mine has a little preamble saying like, something I do will be about 30 or 40 hours, and I can't afford to do it for free anymore and blah blah. I honestly think, or hope, that people just don't understand how much work goes into it.

I honestly don't mind if people go with the friend that does it for free, I'm confident enough in what I'm doing now to know that $200 for a fortnight of all my spare time is not unreasonable. But that's because I also have a nine to five. F trying to do this full time hey. Good luck!

Thanks! I'd rather do something like that full time over my "grind" job any day.

Stumbled upon this today, and thought it might apply to this discussion:

http://allcreativelike.com/2013/09/24/b ... ists-make/

I kinda hate cutting & pasting pedantic articles, but I guess I just did. But it brought up something that I genuinely hadn't thought about in application to the web, which is: context matters. Just as you wouldn't want to sell through a physical gallery that only exhibited unironic watercolors of sunsets and kittens (well, I assume, anyhow), if you put your art up on a generalist/nonspecific site, you won't make any progress either. I mean, I suppose overall generalist sites with dedicated single-artist spaces like Etsy contradict this since you can send people specifically to your page, but if you're looking for a site to build awareness of your stuff (and potentially sell it), you'd want the parent site to be aimed at the kind of folks who'd dig your stuff.

Of course, that's as far as I got in the thought process... no specific sites in mind... but I wonder if it's worth heading to other sites like ILF and putting up some small works in their B/S/Ts to build awareness... maybe some postcard-sized prints that you can make through places like moo.com and sell for a few bucks each to build awareness of your stuff... or do short runs of shirts though Teespring...

Just rambling now...

jrmy wrote:Stumbled upon this today, and thought it might apply to this discussion:

http://allcreativelike.com/2013/09/24/b ... ists-make/

I kinda hate cutting & pasting pedantic articles, but I guess I just did. But it brought up something that I genuinely hadn't thought about in application to the web, which is: context matters. Just as you wouldn't want to sell through a physical gallery that only exhibited unironic watercolors of sunsets and kittens (well, I assume, anyhow), if you put your art up on a generalist/nonspecific site, you won't make any progress either. I mean, I suppose overall generalist sites with dedicated single-artist spaces like Etsy contradict this since you can send people specifically to your page, but if you're looking for a site to build awareness of your stuff (and potentially sell it), you'd want the parent site to be aimed at the kind of folks who'd dig your stuff.

Of course, that's as far as I got in the thought process... no specific sites in mind... but I wonder if it's worth heading to other sites like ILF and putting up some small works in their B/S/Ts to build awareness... maybe some postcard-sized prints that you can make through places like moo.com and sell for a few bucks each to build awareness of your stuff... or do short runs of shirts though Teespring...

Just rambling now...

Hmmm, that's a good idea. I'm more or less just trying to shotgun blast my stuff out there. I'm capable of doing different types of stuff, but for the most part, I think bands and the weirder side of the art community might appreciate my stuff more. I dunno what "parent site" will cater to mystical surrealism and what have you.... If you think of any other sites like ILF that I could do that through....I will. I guess I thought that it would be spammy to try and sell art through the BST here