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Re: Help me pick a guitar for Drop F tuning...

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:17 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
Yup, allready started the bidding process hahaha I've wanted one for a couple years now, its time to bite the bullet. I share your sentiment on the neck pickup, but I will probably keep the stock one in there for those fat laser leads you can get out of em. I was worried about the 25.5" scale as well but my old 8 string was 25.5" with an 80 and it had more then enough tension for me, I like a lil flop n warble in my strings it gives that subtle modulation effect when you sustain taht I like. As far as the bridge running out of intonation I have a tricky lil plan that just might work, if it does I'll be sure to post it cause alot of gibson people could probably use it.

I was thinking a custom circle K set actually! I looked up their gauge vs tension chart and came up with 15.3lbs for a .80 in F so I developed my own set aiming for as close to that tension as I could get:

(Low to High)
F= .80
C= .54
F= .40
A#= .30
D= .22
G= .15
C= .12

All tensions are in the upper 14 to low 16 range which should keep it fairly consistent.



This is the new development! I all ready have a drummer lined up, and I have a prospective key's player but there's a few more things I want to get in order and some more idea's I want to develop before bringing it into the sunlight, or moonlight.

ryan summit wrote:dude this things been callin my name
http://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/msg/3938752842.html
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and the price keeps droppin($125)
if its just you go for the 7


HOW DID I MISS THIS!?!?!?!!!! Dude Matt, if I send you the money via paypal (plus a lil extra for your troubles and shipping) would you consider picking this up and shipping it to me??

Re: Help me pick a guitar for Drop F tuning...

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:25 pm
by ryan summit
yes abstodudely
thats why i was showin it to ya
but forgot to paste in image link
its gonna be sad cause johns been tryin
to get me to pick it up
but 7 is out of my league
be happy to help

Re: Help me pick a guitar for Drop F tuning...

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:30 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
ryan summit wrote:yes abstodudely
thats why i was showin it to ya
but forgot to paste in image link
its gonna be sad cause johns been tryin
to get me to pick it up
but 7 is out of my league
be happy to help


:hug: PM incoming!

Re: Help me pick a guitar for Drop F tuning...

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:32 pm
by ryan summit
oh crap pm sent

Re: Help me pick a guitar for Drop F tuning...

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:38 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
:yay:

Now I just have to figure out the best way to drill out the low tuner to accommodate a .80 :picard:

Re: Help me pick a guitar for Drop F tuning...

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:27 pm
by samzadgan
nice score...assuming you got that one.

they are really nice guitars, i only recently found out about them. I love that they look like beefy SG's!

Re: Help me pick a guitar for Drop F tuning...

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:28 pm
by The Wood Wizard
Nice, those sounds like solid string choices. A little on the wiggly side, but thats good for doom, that BOWWWWW sound as I refer to it haha. Cool man, im looking forward to seeing/hearing what you got goin on. Ive started to jam with this chick and were doing a doom/blackmetal type thing well see how it goes.


ALSO, you da man Ryan. :thumb:

Re: Help me pick a guitar for Drop F tuning...

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:29 pm
by The Wood Wizard
GAH drillin tuners sucks, i just unwind the string a little bit. drillin for an .80 can take a lot of meat off the tuner and id hate to screw the structural integrity of it.

Re: Help me pick a guitar for Drop F tuning...

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:51 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
samzadgan wrote:nice score...assuming you got that one.

they are really nice guitars, i only recently found out about them. I love that they look like beefy SG's!


I haven't gotten either yet, but things are in motion. :yay:

That's what I hear! The normal 7 string metal players hate them but the doom / sludge guys love them.

The Wood Wizard wrote:Nice, those sounds like solid string choices. A little on the wiggly side, but thats good for doom, that BOWWWWW sound as I refer to it haha. Cool man, im looking forward to seeing/hearing what you got goin on. Ive started to jam with this chick and were doing a doom/blackmetal type thing well see how it goes.


ALSO, you da man Ryan. :thumb:


Thanks man! I try to do alot of research before big steps like this, and the baritone ibby seemed more like an impulse desire while the dearmond i've been thinking about for atleast 3 years on and off. And exactly on the BOWWWWW sound, that billowing swell from slightly floppy thick strings, love it. Ahhhhh we're on similar pages ;) It's too bad I'm 7-8 hours away! I'm really hoping I can find a female keys / bass synth player who can also sing, or a really good keys / synth / modular player and then a female singer. I've learned alot in being in DE and one thing i will most definitely miss having a female voice at the forefront, it really adds another level to the music if done right. I know a perfect candidate, like beyond perfect, with a big enough rig to keep up with mine, but she's all ready in atleast 2 bands.

The Wood Wizard wrote:GAH drillin tuners sucks, i just unwind the string a little bit. drillin for an .80 can take a lot of meat off the tuner and id hate to screw the structural integrity of it.


I feel unsafe unwinding the strings as well as drilling the tuners. But circle K makes their own string so maybe just maybe they'll wind me a custom set with the sizes I want with an .80 for my scale length that tapers to like .50 so i don't have to mod the tuners. Then I'll just order like 6 to 10 sets.

Re: Help me pick a guitar for Drop F tuning...

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:08 pm
by The Wood Wizard
thats a good idea, they are super nice people. the owners an awesome dude who loooves the ultra low notes!
If you want I can do a writeup with pics on how to do the unwinding thing. theres nothing to it, its pretty safe. plus when you do it it makes the cooleest whirling sound ever!

Re: Help me pick a guitar for Drop F tuning...

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:36 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
Really? I'll have to send em an email, I use their bass strings and love them. They last forever and are manufactured intelligently, as long as you order the correct ones hhaha

You should do it regardless, thats good information to have especially with the number of guitar modders we have on the board.

Re: Help me pick a guitar for Drop F tuning...

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:01 pm
by whiskey_face
u should get an ultra vi skip. . . .


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Re: Help me pick a guitar for Drop F tuning...

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:06 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
I thought about it as i've heard alot of good reviews, but i'd rather tune a guitar down then tune a bass vi up. I want to use a kind of weird tuning and the bass vi is actually a little lower then i want to go.

Re: Help me pick a guitar for Drop F tuning...

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:54 am
by The Wood Wizard
next time I change the big strings I might do that. I wish I could take a video, would be much easier but I dont have the technology for that. Do video cameras have tubes in them?

Re: Help me pick a guitar for Drop F tuning...

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:37 am
by t-rey
Ancient Astronaught wrote: whatchu think willis? (not just you trey :lol: )


:lol:

The Dearmond looks rad as hell. ryan summit continues to be ultra rad. Whiskey's 'little' rig is awesome.