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SPACERITUAL wrote:

doomfuzz wrote:I live in Charleston, SC. I moved here from Illinois about 12 years ago. I see the most racist and homophobic shit everyday, but I am also surprised often by how liberal some of the most redneck looking motherfuckers are. Charleston is like the nyc of SC so I know things are a little better here then in the rest of the state. The south in general is a fucked up place, but I love it.

Man fuck charleston. Maybe its the nyc if you like getting stuck in traffic all the fucking time. Columbia is a piece of shit too honestly. Greenville is the only acceptable place to live.

Columbia does suck balls. Greenville is a nice town. My sister/brother in law live there.I almost moved to greenville a couple of years ago for a team leader job at whole foods (I am the chef at the charleston store). Now we are looking at ashville as a possible move. Do you live in greenville? If so, do you know chris ashley?

doomfuzz wrote:

SPACERITUAL wrote:

doomfuzz wrote:I live in Charleston, SC. I moved here from Illinois about 12 years ago. I see the most racist and homophobic shit everyday, but I am also surprised often by how liberal some of the most redneck looking motherfuckers are. Charleston is like the nyc of SC so I know things are a little better here then in the rest of the state. The south in general is a fucked up place, but I love it.

Man fuck charleston. Maybe its the nyc if you like getting stuck in traffic all the fucking time. Columbia is a piece of shit too honestly. Greenville is the only acceptable place to live.

Columbia does suck balls. Greenville is a nice town. My sister/brother in law live there.I almost moved to greenville a couple of years ago for a team leader job at whole foods (I am the chef at the charleston store). Now we are looking at ashville as a possible move. Do you live in greenville? If so, do you know chris ashley?

On my aforementioned road trip, we spent a couple days in Asheville, and I have to say that it seemed to be one of the more open-minded/enlightened/least redneck-y places we stopped on that trip. No one there even gave us a nasty look or called us yankees because of our accents.

doomfuzz wrote:Columbia does suck balls. Greenville is a nice town. My sister/brother in law live there.I almost moved to greenville a couple of years ago for a team leader job at whole foods (I am the chef at the charleston store). Now we are looking at ashville as a possible move. Do you live in greenville? If so, do you know chris ashley?

I live in spartanburg, greenvilles retarded, inbred cousin. Though i might as awell live in greenville for all the time i spend there. Have you ever noticed how the gville whole foods smells like dogshit? Christopher ashley from earshot? I do indeed know that guy. Asheville is nice. Lots of good beer and decent shows once in a blue moon. I live like 30 mins away so if im ever bored or theres a show i head up there. Usually get lost though....

People can put whatever they want on billboards, t-shirts, and can say whatever comes into their heads. That's their right.

And it's my right to compose my opinions of those people based on the things they espouse.

I say we start a fund to make a billboard in Adel, GA that says "Fuck Adel, GA".

theavondon wrote:I say we start a fund to make a billboard in Adel, GA that says "Fuck Adel, GA".

AS ALWAYS DONOVAN IS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING.

Perhaps "I met my boyfriend in Adel, GA" with a picture of two dudes kissing?

And, full disclosure: there are idiots, homophobes, and other people I try not to associate with on either side of the Mason/Dixon. The South catches a lot of shit for that, but it's errywhere.

"Adel, GA is for lovers...who love dudes"?


Also, yeah, Texas really doesn't have the sorta "sweet-tea" flavored brand of bigotry the deep south does, but we sure do have our queer hunters and their huge trucks with KC lights straight out of a Dead Kennedys song.

theavondon wrote:I say we start a fund to make a billboard in Adel, GA that says "Fuck Adel, GA".

i'm a big fan of this.

for what it's worth, i was born in queens, nyc, but i've lived most of my life out on long island. lots of upper-middle class protestant white folk in my town.

growing up as part of a poorer (but still comfortably middle class) asian family surrounded by rich white bluebloods was an odd experience. everyone here tries to pretend they're all progressive and 'politically correct' and all that shit but they're viciously racist. they're just much better at doing it in private and hurting people in ways that you can't call them out on. the bullies up here will still give you an old school beating but they much prefer passive aggressive bullshit. like how local businesses run by minorities often fail within six months because their own fucking neighbors refuse to go to any of them.

i went to a golf course because a friend of mine works there and gets me in for free, so we just get hammered and drive around in a golf cart all day. we drove our cart past a group of older white men waiting for a black guy and his girlfriend to play a hole and we overheard one of them say to his friends, 'that fucking monkey should be selling bananas out of a cart.' all his friends laughed, and nodded in agreement.

even some of my friends here try to defend the fact that their parents say racist things TO MY FACE by saying bullshit like 'that's just how they're raised, they don't know any better.' if they don't know any better, they're borderline retarded.

free speech should remain protected, but i should be allowed to knock your teeth down your goddamn throat for bullshit like that.

deadbeatriot wrote:free speech should remain protected, but i should be allowed to knock your teeth down your goddamn throat for bullshit like that.

This is how i see it.

@deadbeatriot

What part of Long Island?

I lived on Long Island until I was 18 and I had almost the exact opposite experience. (For reference, I lived more or less right in the middle of Nassau, a little south)

Idk I mean I grew up and live in the Chicago area, but would visit southern Illinois and shit would. E pretty bad. I mean I went down there shortly after Obama was elected and I saw a bunch of Obama cutouts hung from trees. I mean I don't think it's illegal for them to put up those bill boards but it's like "do you really want to be associated with that?"

jfrey wrote:@deadbeatriot

What part of Long Island?

I lived on Long Island until I was 18 and I had almost the exact opposite experience. (For reference, I lived more or less right in the middle of Nassau, a little south)

north shore of nassau. i know places like hempstead and farmingdale aren't anything like what i described. but i lived in locust valley. it's a tiny little shithole where the nicest part of our town is literally the cemetery.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locust_Valley

deadbeatriot wrote:

jfrey wrote:@deadbeatriot

What part of Long Island?

I lived on Long Island until I was 18 and I had almost the exact opposite experience. (For reference, I lived more or less right in the middle of Nassau, a little south)

north shore of nassau. i know places like hempstead and farmingdale aren't anything like what i described. but i lived in locust valley. it's a tiny little shithole where the nicest part of our town is literally the cemetery.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locust_Valley

Hmm. The closest I ever was to there was working construction in Oyster Bay, but I never knew anyone there besides the people I worked for so I have no idea what things were like "behind the scenes" so to speak. The total of like 3 people I knew there were very nice. One guy, probably the richest guy I have ever met in my life would go get us coffee in his beat to shit pickup truck.

The area I grew up was part of the Hempstead area. It was one of the more accepting places I have ever been.

I hear some heinous shit in Boston where I live now.

jfrey wrote:

deadbeatriot wrote:

jfrey wrote:@deadbeatriot

What part of Long Island?

I lived on Long Island until I was 18 and I had almost the exact opposite experience. (For reference, I lived more or less right in the middle of Nassau, a little south)

north shore of nassau. i know places like hempstead and farmingdale aren't anything like what i described. but i lived in locust valley. it's a tiny little shithole where the nicest part of our town is literally the cemetery.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locust_Valley

Hmm. The closest I ever was to there was working construction in Oyster Bay, but I never knew anyone there besides the people I worked for so I have no idea what things were like "behind the scenes" so to speak. The total of like 3 people I knew there were very nice. One guy, probably the richest guy I have ever met in my life would go get us coffee in his beat to shit pickup truck.

The area I grew up was part of the Hempstead area. It was one of the more accepting places I have ever been.

I hear some heinous shit in Boston where I live now.

That is so weird. I lived on the Cambridge/Somerville line for like 5 years after college, and then another 2 years down in the West Roxbury part of Boston, and went to law school in downtown Boston during that time, and I never heard any kind of that shit at all. It was all very egalitarian/liberal/kumbaya/whatever, and it was really cool. I was always puzzled about the reputation Boston had for being racist, because I never saw a shred of it.