Re: Speed of Light Defeated? Einstein Proven Wrong??
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:44 pm
Will this speed up the Console II?
Ragged Trousers wrote:Will this speed up the Console II?
dont push it.
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Re: Speed of Light Defeated? Einstein Proven Wrong??
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:21 pm
dont push it.
Re: Speed of Light Defeated? Einstein Proven Wrong??
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:11 pm
Wasn't it Maxwell who came up with this 'nothing faster than light' stuff - and Einstein just used it for his theories? And now Einstein's getting loads of hassle - just cos he got some bum info? 
Re: Speed of Light Defeated? Einstein Proven Wrong??
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:26 pm
No, that was Einstein. Maxwell's thing was electromagnetism. He also was big on the whole absolute frame of reference thing and the aether, which Einstein effectively killed with special relativity.D-Rainger wrote:Wasn't it Maxwell who came up with this 'nothing faster than light' stuff - and Einstein just used it for his theories? And now Einstein's getting loads of hassle - just cos he got some bum info?
Einstein wasn't infallible though -- he never got his head around quantum mechanics, and he dithered over the cosmological constant because he was working under the assumption of a steady-state universe. He took it out of the equations when the universe was shown to be expanding and called it his greatest mistake. It has subsequently been put back in though, for various reasons to do with gravity.
I still think they probably misjudged the distance on this one otherwise we'd have seen neutrinos precede light from supernovae before now.
Re: Speed of Light Defeated? Einstein Proven Wrong??
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:08 pm
devnulljp wrote:I still think they probably misjudged the distance on this one otherwise we'd have seen neutrinos precede light from supernovae before now.
Re: Speed of Light Defeated? Einstein Proven Wrong??
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:05 am
Here's the discussion at CERN: http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1384486/
And Brian Cox: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15034852
And Brian Cox: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15034852
Re: Speed of Light Defeated? Einstein Proven Wrong??
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:10 am
More importantly, have we hit 3/5ths of a mile in ten seconds yet?
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Re: Speed of Light Defeated? Einstein Proven Wrong??
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:27 am
Tesla was here
Einstein is a loser
Einstein is a loser
Re: Speed of Light Defeated? Einstein Proven Wrong??
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:35 am
I thought Tesla was all into nonlocality?
Re: Speed of Light Defeated? Einstein Proven Wrong??
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:23 am
Most likely an error.
Nonetheless if it is true that doesn't immediately discount special relativity. Mind you our GPS' work on the principle of relativity and time dilation has been proved on multiple occasions. It might turn out to be not as complete as was thought (which by the way was never 100%) but it'll still be useful and Einstein will still have been groundbreaking and smart as tits
Nonetheless if it is true that doesn't immediately discount special relativity. Mind you our GPS' work on the principle of relativity and time dilation has been proved on multiple occasions. It might turn out to be not as complete as was thought (which by the way was never 100%) but it'll still be useful and Einstein will still have been groundbreaking and smart as tits
Re: Speed of Light Defeated? Einstein Proven Wrong??
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 3:41 pm
i bet theres just some small exception for subatomic neutral particles and that the limit only applies to like charged particles or w/e.
Re: Speed of Light Defeated? Einstein Proven Wrong??
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:31 pm
E=mc^2 doesn't work that wayGearmond wrote:i bet theres just some small exception for subatomic neutral particles and that the limit only applies to like charged particles or w/e.
Re: Speed of Light Defeated? Einstein Proven Wrong??
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:43 pm
i'm going with "anomalous result is anomalous."just in the last decade i've been told that there was "evidence of life on Mars" that didn't pan out on further examination so many times that i'm not buying anything that isn't checked, double-checked, peer-reviewed, and (if possible) replicated. it would certainly raise interesting questions, though, and drive the making-science-and-mysticism-meet types go absolutely batty for at least 25 years.
Re: Speed of Light Defeated? Einstein Proven Wrong??
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:54 pm
dubkitty wrote:i'm going with "anomalous result is anomalous."just in the last decade i've been told that there was "evidence of life on Mars" that didn't pan out on further examination so many times that i'm not buying anything that isn't checked, double-checked, peer-reviewed, and (if possible) replicated. it would certainly raise interesting questions, though, and drive the making-science-and-mysticism-meet types go absolutely batty for at least 25 years.
I will not go batty at all
science is merely a ruse so you don't get in the way of those that practice magic 
Re: Speed of Light Defeated? Einstein Proven Wrong??
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:21 pm
dubkitty wrote:i'm going with "anomalous result is anomalous."just in the last decade i've been told that there was "evidence of life on Mars" that didn't pan out on further examination so many times that i'm not buying anything that isn't checked, double-checked, peer-reviewed, and (if possible) replicated. it would certainly raise interesting questions, though, and drive the making-science-and-mysticism-meet types go absolutely batty for at least 25 years.
but mysticism is already at least 25 years ahead of science, so at best this will put science on equal footing