Re: America
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:08 pm
Really though, what changed?
Jero wrote:Really though, what changed?
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Re: America
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:12 pm
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Re: America
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:29 pm
Thanks for the offer, but uh, no thanks.TroySanders wrote:how about some cock in my ass
Actually, it was Bill Hicks (the first time round).snipelfritz wrote:Says the guy with the V for Vendetta avatar etc.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4CQ_1GWn4w[/youtube]
I doubt it. The Teabaggers and birthers and fox news will figure a way to twist it and turn it against him anyway. I hope you're right though.snipelfritz wrote:On topic...Obama's approval ratings are gonna sky rocket because of this.
Remember how disgusted everyone was when you saw those crowds cheering in the Middle East because of 9/11?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrM0dAFsZ8k[/youtube]
”I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy.” <---- Nice but fake quotation wrongly attributed to Martin Luther King, Jr.
Re: America
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 8:03 pm
devnulljp wrote:Thanks for the offer, but uh, no thanks.TroySanders wrote:how about some cock in my assActually, it was Bill Hicks (the first time round).snipelfritz wrote:Says the guy with the V for Vendetta avatar etc.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4CQ_1GWn4w[/youtube]I doubt it. The Teabaggers and birthers and fox news will figure a way to twist it and turn it against him anyway. I hope you're right though.snipelfritz wrote:On topic...Obama's approval ratings are gonna sky rocket because of this.
Remember how disgusted everyone was when you saw those crowds cheering in the Middle East because of 9/11?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrM0dAFsZ8k[/youtube]
”I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy.” - Martin Luther King, Jr.
Re: America
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 8:08 pm
devnulljp wrote:
”I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy.” - Martin Luther King, Jr.
Re: America
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 8:12 pm
and what happened to MLK? he got shot. nonviolence only works against Anglo-Americans with Anglo-American morality.
Re: America
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 8:21 pm
if i get shot, i get shot.
Re: America
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 8:29 pm
patriotism=one hulking and immense"meh" from me.
Re: America
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 8:34 pm
CBA713 wrote:Jero wrote:Really though, what changed?
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Re: America
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:36 pm
dubkitty wrote:and what happened to MLK? he got shot. nonviolence only works against Anglo-Americans with Anglo-American morality.
What about Gandhi?
Re: America
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:41 pm
I 
this thread.
this thread.Re: America
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:49 pm
peps1 wrote:What about Gandhi?
dubkitty wrote:nonviolence only works against Anglo-Americans with Anglo-American morality.
if Gandhi had tried nonviolent resistance against the Nazis--hell, if he'd tried it against Pinochet--he'd have wound up in an unmarked grave. the success of nonviolent resistance depends on making the oppressor feel guilt, and you can't feel guilt if you're a sociopath or a dedicated ideologue. you can't defeat naked evil with love...evil will cut your head off before you get to the second verse of "Kum Ba Ya."
Re: America
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:52 pm
Did I misread that or did you just nullify your whole point? MLK used nonviolence against Anglo-Americans with Anglo-American morality and they shot him.dubkitty wrote:and what happened to MLK? he got shot. nonviolence only works against Anglo-Americans with Anglo-American morality.
Ghandi used nonviolence against Anglos, and some nationalistic Hindu nutter shot him for not hating on the Mulsims enough.
Malcolm X used violent rhetoric against Anglo-Americans with Anglo-American morality and some Nation of Islam nutters shot him.
Doesn't make sense.
Nonviolence probably wouldn't have worked against Saddam Hussein or Augusto Pinochet though.
Re: America
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:58 pm
just because MLK and ghandi got shot doesn't mean that they failed.
Re: America
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 10:00 pm
King used nonviolent resistance to win victories for civil rights in the earlier part of the 60s; the civil rights legislation that ended segregation, ensured voting rights, etc. was passed by 1965. King was killed in 1968. in a historical sense it's somewhat inaccurate to say that King "used nonviolence...and they shot him." this was true in other cases; e.g. James Meredith was shot and wounded during an actual march. i get a little fussy about historical points is all. carry on.