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Re: I must see SuckerPunch.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:52 pm
by Gunner Recall
I can't wait, though I feel totally pedo bear since that's the little girl from that jim carrey movie.

I'd put my money on a Pan's Labyrinth ending.
It's about a crazy chick in an insane asylum tripping balls about ninjas/dragons/b52's before she is to be lobotomized.

Re: I must see SuckerPunch.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:39 pm
by Jero
I don't remember pans labyrinth lol

Re: I must see SuckerPunch.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:13 pm
by bobloblah
zach snyder is a piece of shit. but if you like watching things in slow motions this movie will be great.

Re: I must see SuckerPunch.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:00 pm
by Gearmond
but watchmen was terrible compared to the book

Re: I must see SuckerPunch.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:48 pm
by DarkAxel
Gearmond wrote:but watchmen was terrible compared to the book


i don't think so, i think it was one of the best comicbook adaptations

i also think it's the best movie that came out last year

and it's one of my favourite movies :)

(just my opinions)

Re: I must see SuckerPunch.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:04 pm
by CBA
DarkAxel wrote:
Gearmond wrote:but watchmen was terrible compared to the book


i don't think so, i think it was one of the best comicbook adaptations

i also think it's the best movie that came out last year

and it's one of my favourite movies :)

(just my opinions)



I've only read Watchmen once, and I loved it, but the end of the film adaptation was a disaster. I won't go into it in case somebody hasn't read it, but with the Watchmen graphic novel, Alan Moore basically predicted the incredibly theatrical spectacle of 9/11 in a very interesting, satirical sci-fi kinda way, and the film version COMPLETELY ignored it. If people think the original spectacular disaster in the graphic novel is out-of-date or goofy, they are totally totally wrong. It is one of the most ahead-of-its-time (i.e. avant garde) conclusions in modern storytelling.

C

Re: I must see SuckerPunch.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:09 pm
by DarkAxel
yeah, i have to admit the ending wasn't very satisfying

Re: I must see SuckerPunch.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:33 pm
by bobloblah
DarkAxel wrote:
Gearmond wrote:but watchmen was terrible compared to the book


i don't think so, i think it was one of the best comicbook adaptations

i also think it's the best movie that came out last year

and it's one of my favourite movies :)

(just my opinions)


it is my opinion that your opinion is wrong

Re: I must see SuckerPunch.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:36 pm
by DarkAxel
fair enough

morning, pistols, you and me :shoot:

naah, we're cool :) i just have to say you guys are the first people i've heard saying it's not good, so it surprised me a bit :)

and my friend who is a big comicbooks fan absolutely loved it

BUT different people - different tastes

Re: I must see SuckerPunch.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:31 pm
by StudioShutIn
DarkAxel wrote:fair enough

morning, pistols, you and me :shoot:

naah, we're cool :) i just have to say you guys are the first people i've heard saying it's not good, so it surprised me a bit :)

and my friend who is a big comicbooks fan absolutely loved it

BUT different people - different tastes


Of course..the guys who wrote the book absolutely hated the movie, so :idk:
I have to say the book was pretty great, though I thought it leaned a little heavy on the "OH LOOKIT ME! I'M A GRITTY COMIC BOOK! BEWBIES! BLOOD! DRUGS! DURR HURR"

Geez what'm I saying? :facepalm: Look...I liked it...but I just thought it was edgy for the sake of being edgy, not for the sake of the story, in certain spots...

Re: I must see SuckerPunch.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:39 pm
by bobloblah
:shoot: :hug:
what really did it in for me was
1) the ending
2) the cheesy use of music(all along the watch tower, then "hey look a towe" hallelujah"
3) i just don't like zach snyders style. i tried to give it a chance, i swear, but it's like i could smell him on it. :hug:

Re: I must see SuckerPunch.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:03 pm
by CBA
StudioShutIn wrote:
DarkAxel wrote:fair enough

morning, pistols, you and me :shoot:

naah, we're cool :) i just have to say you guys are the first people i've heard saying it's not good, so it surprised me a bit :)

and my friend who is a big comicbooks fan absolutely loved it

BUT different people - different tastes


Of course..the guys who wrote the book absolutely hated the movie, so :idk:
I have to say the book was pretty great, though I thought it leaned a little heavy on the "OH LOOKIT ME! I'M A GRITTY COMIC BOOK! BEWBIES! BLOOD! DRUGS! DURR HURR"

Geez what'm I saying? :facepalm: Look...I liked it...but I just thought it was edgy for the sake of being edgy, not for the sake of the story, in certain spots...



Yeah, but at the time that it was created/published, people weren't doing gritty stuff just to be gritty. I think that that could be said for myriad creations currently, but not for Watchmen, considering its birth date.

The sex scene in Watchmen (the film) was a little gratuitous, but AT LEAST THE CHICK WAS HOT HAAAAAYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBBBBEEEWWBBBBSS. I just think that the ending of the g.novel, as weird as it was, was rrrreeeaaallly smart. To me, the pure absurdity and over-the-top-ness of it perfectly illustrates present day media spectacle... 9/11 mostly, and the credulousness of humanity.

C

Re: I must see SuckerPunch.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:08 pm
by htsamurai
bobloblah wrote:
DarkAxel wrote:
Gearmond wrote:but watchmen was terrible compared to the book


i don't think so, i think it was one of the best comicbook adaptations

i also think it's the best movie that came out last year

and it's one of my favourite movies :)

(just my opinions)


it is my opinion that your opinion is wrong


it is my opinion that your opinion of him being wrong is quite right.

what a terrible debacle the film was. Seriously, coming from being such a fan of the comic I was disappointed so hard, and even moreso when the people I saw it with were talking crap on Moore BECAUSE OF THE FILM! and I couldn't explain to them that the film didn't stick to the book :cry: :no:

Re: I must see SuckerPunch.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:30 pm
by snipelfritz
This thread is now about Watchmen

bobloblah wrote:2) the cheesy use of music(all along the watch tower, then "hey look a towe" hallelujah"

I agree with every criticism of the film I've ever heard except for this. They actually used the lyrics of All Along the Watchtower in the book, so :idk: , it was the "two riders" line that was important. I don't remember exactly how "Hallelujah" fit in, but I remember liking something about it relating the song's sexual politics to he story. Anyone who thinks it is a "nice, pretty song" has walked right into Mr. Cohen's trap. It's not; it's kinky, depraved and depressed.

Gearmond wrote:but watchmen was terrible compared to the book

DarkAxel wrote:i think it was one of the best comicbook adaptations

I fail to see how these two statements contradict each other. I agree with both of them

Yeah, the movie was as good of an adaptation you'll ever get, but a big part of what made Watchmen so great in the first place was the innovative use of the graphic novel as a medium. They had to change the ending because they were unable to introduce that whole underlying story-line(with the cartoonist and whatnot) without it seeming too obvious as to what was going on. Alan Moore's usage of materials other than pure comic-style story framing are what really take the narrative to the next level(also, the comic book within a comic book). Point is: Hollywood sucks and creativity is dead. Also, Zack Snyder is horrible and 300 was one giant pile of money-crazed repressed homosexuality.

Re: I must see SuckerPunch.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:50 pm
by aen
Never had any interest in the watchmen comic, and I like comics. Even as a kid, I knew it was so FAR UP ITS OWN ASS I would never get along with it. The movie just seemed stupid as hell.